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2115 Plate #8 - Are 2115A And 2115B The Only Options?

 
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Posted 09/02/2023   3:58 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add AxmxZ to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Found these six #8 PNC5s in my discount lots. The height of the tagging doesn't quite measure up to 23mm, but it's definitely not 2115a narrow tagging - I have those and can compare.

Were there 2115 plate blocks #8? or just 2115b?




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Posted 09/02/2023   4:24 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add 51studebaker to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
This can give you this information
https://stampsmarter.org/features/P...ockHome.html

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Posted 09/02/2023   4:39 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add AxmxZ to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
That tool doesn't even have 2115a. It only lists 2115, 2115b and 2115c, out of all the varieties. And none of them have pictures of tagging. They don't list a #8 for 2115, but their info seems, to put it mildly, spotty.
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Posted 09/02/2023   4:39 pm  Show Profile Check philatomic's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add philatomic to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
According to the Scott catalog and the Plate Number Coil Collectors Club Values List, plate number 8 only occurs on 2115a and 2115b, not 2115. The tagging on 2115b is both taller and wider than on 2115.

2115 was printed on the B press, 2115a on the C press, and 211B on the D press. The printing cylinders used on the C and D press were interchangeable but could not be used on the B press.

Plate number 2, which is a B press plate number, has also been reported with "wide and tall" tagging. This is considered an anomaly.
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Posted 09/02/2023   4:42 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add AxmxZ to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
philatomic, that's the info I got. But it seems very unlikely that someone gathered 6 pristine PNC5s of 2115b #8... but is that more or less likely than an entire plate number of 2115 getting missed all these years?
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Posted 09/02/2023   4:51 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add 51studebaker to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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That tool doesn't even have 2115a. It only lists 2115, 2115b and 2115c, out of all the varieties. And none of them have pictures of tagging. They don't list a #8 for 2115, but their info seems, to put it mildly, spotty.

Wrong.
Stamp Smarter has the most complete tagging info anywhere including the 2115a.


It is true that my wife and I 'only' entered 47,000+ plate numbers into the database and that I can only update them when someone reports them to me.
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51studebaker, I don't understand what's going on, but this is not at all what I see on my side. Are we using the same link?

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Posted 09/02/2023   5:17 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add 51studebaker to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
They are two different databases (plate number database and the tagging database). There are screens where these databases are accessible together, but the two pages shown above are focused on the specifics topic (tagging or plate number).
This is the Tagging page https://stampsmarter.org/features/TaggingView.html

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Posted 09/02/2023   5:20 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add mml1942 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
AxmxZ

I think you are looking at the wrong database on Stamp Smarter. Don is showing a different one in that second post.

See the Stamp Smarter Tagging DB at:

https://stampsmarter.org/features/T...ng_Home.html

The other DB shown is strictly for Plate Numbers, without details on tagging.

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Posted 09/03/2023   11:14 am  Show Profile Check philatomic's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add philatomic to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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But it seems very unlikely that someone gathered 6 pristine PNC5s of 2115b #8... but is that more or less likely than an entire plate number of 2115 getting missed all these years?


I think it's more likely that someone has had these PNCs, possibly without realizing it, than for there to have been a previously unknown plate #8 made for the B press. With the exception of the anomalous plate #2 examples, the plate numbers for Scott 2115 are mutually exclusive with those for Scott 2115a and 2115b.
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