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R69d Railroad Cancel - Unlisted By Shellabear?

 
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Posted 09/30/2023   4:30 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add 1typesetter to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
I recently picked up this R69d with a railroad handwritten cancel. I don't see it listed in Shellabear & Tolman.



Can anybody identify this railroad?
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Posted 09/30/2023   5:39 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add John Becker to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Sunbury & Lewistown RR Company, (both in Pennsylvania)
JGLS Treas = Jacob George Lochman Shindel, treasurer.
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial...hman-shindel
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Edited by John Becker - 10/01/2023 09:43 am
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Posted 09/30/2023   6:12 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add revenuermd to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I have gone through the listings in Terry Cox's third edition book on North American Railroads. The only one I could find that seems to match S & L RR is Sunbury and Lewistown Rail Road in Pennsylvania as John Becker has just suggested. However, Cox states their stock was issued in 1872, although the date line is 18__ and their twenty year bonds in 1871, due in 1891. The dollar denomination has me thinking in terms of bonds, so my search does not give me great confidence that this is the correct identification for a stamp cancelled with an 1870 date. however, I have just reread John Becker's post that seems to clinch the treasurer. Great job, John.
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Edited by revenuermd - 09/30/2023 7:04 pm
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Posted 09/30/2023   7:16 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add 1typesetter to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Nice job guys. Thanks.

However, Wikipedia says the line was completed in December 1871 so not sure what would trigger an 1870 date.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sunbu...own_Railroad
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Edited by 1typesetter - 09/30/2023 7:23 pm
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Posted 09/30/2023   7:41 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rogdcam to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
According to numerous sites I looked at the Sunbury and Lewiston Railroad came to exist in 1870 in a reincorporation.


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The railroad played a vital role in the development and expansion of McClure. Work of grading began in the summer of 1867. In 1870, the name was changed to Sunbury and Lewistown Railroad.


https://www.mcclurepa1867.com/copy-...olonel-a-k-m


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The origins of the Selinsgrove (pronounced SEAL-ins-grove) Industrial, like many lines throughout the nation, trace back to the post-Civil War railroading boom. Local business leaders promoted and planned a line east-ward from Lewistown (a junction with the original Pennsylvania Railroad Main Line, later the Middle Division) through the Middle Creek Valley to the Susquehanna River at Selinsgrove, incorporating as the Middle Creek Railroad in March 1865. Only minor con-struction ensued over the next five years. The company was reincorporated as the Sunbury & Lewistown Railroad in 1870, opened from Lewistown through McClure, Middleburg, and Selinsgrove to a junction with the former Northern Central at Selinsgrove Junction, 43.5 miles, on December 1, 1871.

https://railpace.com/norfolk-southe...nely-branch/


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The Mifflin & Centre County Railroad (M&CC RR) was projected to build northward through this iron belt, from Lewistown to Milesburg. By 1865 the line only extended 12 miles to Milroy with there being no favorable route northward over the Seven Mountains to Milesburg. In May of 1865, the PRR leased the M&CC RR and for years handled enormous traffic to and from Burnham Steel Company, successor of the Freedom Forge. Entrepreneurs also projected a line eastward from Lewistown to the Susquehanna River at Selinsgrove, PA incorporating the Middle Creek Railroad in 1865. Despite having constructed some roadbed, the line was waning by 1870 when it was reincorporated as the Sunbury & Lewistown Railroad.


http://www.harm-web.org/lewistown-eastern-railroad
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Posted 10/01/2023   08:27 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add 1typesetter to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks all. Guess Wikipedia needs a little updating.
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Posted 10/01/2023   08:42 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add revcollector to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
FYI-this stamp has a double transfer in the bottom "dollar".
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Posted 10/01/2023   09:35 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add 1typesetter to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Sharp eye Dan. Thanks. It's a silk so that's an added bonus. (You can see a silk thread in George's collar)
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Posted 10/01/2023   09:39 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add revcollector to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I am not Dan. He is revenuecollector.
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Posted 10/01/2023   09:50 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add 1typesetter to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
You're right. Sorry. Too early in the morning.
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Posted 10/03/2023   09:03 am  Show Profile Check 3193zd's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add 3193zd to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Sorry I don't see the DT. Can you give more detail. I struggle with these!
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Posted 10/03/2023   11:04 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add revcollector to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The bottom part of the letters of the word "dollar" at the bottom.
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Posted 10/03/2023   10:20 pm  Show Profile Check 3193zd's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add 3193zd to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
So the letters are wider than normal?
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Posted 10/03/2023   10:28 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add revcollector to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Yes. Compare them with the word dollar at the top.
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Posted 10/03/2023   10:28 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add revcollector to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Really taller rather than wider.
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Posted 10/08/2023   12:15 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add 1typesetter to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Here's a clearer picture of a double transfer versus not a double transfer. Check the bottom of the letters.


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