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3 Cent 1909, 10 Perforation

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Posted 10/07/2023   3:54 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add NSK to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Enjoy your salad.

I second that suggestion to bring closure to this thread.
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Posted 10/07/2023   4:02 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add drkohler to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
NSK: What I like in that webpage is the picture saying:
"Men printing sheets and women checking them in the stamp print room".
What we actually see is the (new) BEP flat plate printing room, filled up with four plate power presses (running electrically now, no longer steam driven)...

Noone is checking the sheets. The whole press runs counter-clockwise and continuously shifts the four plates from one corner to the next.
1. The pressman cleans the plate that passes in front of him of residual ink spots and checks for plate defects. In front of him is a roll of cloth that removes excessive ink from the plate.
2. The woman in the back puts a new sheet onto the (inked) plate. In front of her is the printing cylinder pressing onto the sheet passing below it.
3. The woman in front removes the printed sheet and puts it onto a pile of previously printed sheets. The vertical "thing" to the right of the woman is the inking station.

What you can't see in the picture is the really impressive speed the power presses operated. About every 4 seconds, a sheet was printed. (This probably is a publicity shot as all other photos and existing small movies show the pressman standing and not sitting. Sitting he would not be able to reach the entire plate, cleaning it with his palms in under 4 seconds).
The high speed of the 4pp is the reason the ink could not fully dry on the previous sheet printed before the next sheet was put on top of the pile. After 100 sheets, the pile was removed and a new pile started. Hence the very first sheet will not show a setoff as there is no sheet below it.
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Edited by drkohler - 10/07/2023 4:10 pm
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Posted 10/07/2023   4:03 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Hunter123cc to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
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So you sent me a link to 10c, tell me what year is the brand with such perforation, not 1914?
In 1925 10 the perforation is slightly different
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Posted 10/07/2023   4:08 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Hunter123cc to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
NSK, show me exactly the 10c from 1925 with 10 perforations and 10 teeth.
Shall I show you where this perforation is?
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Posted 10/07/2023   4:12 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add NSK to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
https://www.theswedishtiger.com/591-scotts.html

Same as before, again the bottom two stamps in the plate block.
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Posted 10/07/2023   4:15 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add 51studebaker to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Let this thread stand as a good example as to why many of us discourage treasure hunting.

All of this could have been avoided if Hunter has simply worked from the assumption that the overwhelming majority of stamps we all see are the most common varieties.
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Posted 10/07/2023   4:17 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add NSK to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Honestly, I see nothing. I have no knowledge of US stamps. But the nonsense OP is posting even is clear to me.

And unless I am mistaken, Scott 562 is a perf. 11 stamp with 562c being a variety of the stamp that has either top or bottom perf. 10. It is not a perf. 10 stamp.
But I am happy if one of the US collectors tells me differently.
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Edited by NSK - 10/07/2023 4:29 pm
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Posted 10/07/2023   4:18 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Hunter123cc to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Well, this is where the rarity and price of the brand lies.
Tomorrow I'll show you #416a
I bought a stamp album with very rare and expensive US stamps on sale for $100
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Posted 10/07/2023   4:23 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Hunter123cc to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
51studebaker
Do you think 599A with top pre-cancel Chicago is a common brand?
This is a very rare and expensive brand.
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Posted 10/07/2023   4:24 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add drkohler to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Here, Hunter, I counted the number of perforation tips for you on the plate block mentioned by NSK.



Notice how the right stamp has more tips than the left? That is the miracle of how line perforators work!
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Edited by drkohler - 10/07/2023 5:00 pm
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Posted 10/07/2023   4:26 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add drkohler to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hunter, I told you explicitly in another thread that this coil is a very common Scott 599. It has nothing to do with Scott 599A.

And if you really paid $100 for your pile of stamps, so far you've shown a total stamp value of around $5. I think you paid way too much for a bunch of common stamps. But we all learn over time, I've made a few unfortunate buys at the beginning of my collecting spree, but unlike you, I was willing to learn. And if you do as well, maybe you get lucky one day in the end, as me, as I bought an ultra rare stamp worth $8k-10k for $80, after 40+ years of searching..
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Edited by drkohler - 10/07/2023 4:33 pm
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Posted 10/07/2023   4:31 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add NSK to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

Quote:
I bought a stamp album with very rare and expensive US stamps on sale for $100


Use your common sense. If the seller said the album contained rare stamps, you have been scammed.
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Edited by NSK - 10/07/2023 4:32 pm
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Posted 10/07/2023   4:39 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add 51studebaker to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hunter,
The stamp you show is NOT a 599A.

Here is a 599/599A pair with the characteristics shown

Don

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Posted 10/07/2023   4:43 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add classic_paper to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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I bought a stamp album with very rare and expensive US stamps on sale for $100

You were scammed… hustled… robbed. Whoever told you these stamps were rare or expensive lied to you.
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Posted 10/07/2023   4:48 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add NSK to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Jujustamps?
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