Colombian Ribon Semi-Officials

I'd be interested in information regarding this issue of Ribon semi-official stamps. It seems like it may have been unissued.

The dealer that sold them to me said that they were listed in Sanabria, which I assumed to be true until last night, when I actually looked for them for the first time. Didn't see them.

As far as I know, there are four values denominated in centavos, all with this design:



five denominated in peso values, all with this design:



and one Registration stamp:



I have some earlier Ribons, with cancels, so I presume those were issued. Any information would be appreciated. The information I've found online varies a bit.

Collin

With appreciation to Riga stamps and a fantastic site:




http://www.cinderellas.info/wittcol...llection.htm

Thanks Rod. Here is an example of an earlier Ribon issue, used, with a 1932 cancel. Sounds like this was near the end of private-issue stamps.

Cheers Collin,
all confusing stuff for me, I am afraid.
I had been trying a while ago to make sense of all
the airmail opts, but I just don't have interest really
in aerophilately.
I have lots of news from my early Australian Stamp News
editions from 1932, and I may get around to scanning it one day.
Collecting airmail ephemera and stamps and covers in 1932
was the latest big "in thing" and quite a bit has been written about it.

The stamps you have shown are Temprano #16, #21 & #19. Printed in Berlin and never used.
Check Rainer's Pages site listed below for more infomation.

http://fuchs-online.com/colombia/ex...press01b.htm

Thanks for that. I recall looking at that site, among others, and though information varies a bit, that site seems just as credible as anything else I looked at.

I have a note to keep an eye out for the 1984 Temprano catalogue, but I've never searched too hard for it. Colombia is one of those byways for me.

The Michel South America catalog (1988) lists the Ribon map as a set of 6 (5c-30C)@ 9.20mks. Also 2 s/c are listed (5 on 12c & 5 on 18C) @ 3.30mks. Both vales are for mint & used. The Schawneberger album for the Americas (1938 edition) provides spaces for only the listed stamps noted above. They are part of the same company.

From my Cinderella collection .

The information on this issue is not quite correct. The latest research done by me is as follwos:

According to Law No. 1574 of 16 September 1933, private mail carriers were no longer allowed to issue and use their own stamps. Instead, covers had to be franked with stamps of the Colombian National Post. This prepared but no longer issued issue is believed has printed by the Printing Press Sauer in Danzig, using gummed watermarked paper of the same type as used for the stamps of Danzig, was therefore no longer used. Another theory says that, because every stamp in the sheet from each denomination has the typing error COLOBIANO instead of COLOMBIANO and the printings were therefor rejected.

The issue also exisits imperforated...., see 3 sheets of my exhbit.

According to this site, Julius Sauer did not deliver stamps after 1924. Wouldn't it be highly unlikely they still had stamp paper as used for stamps of Danzig in the early 1930s?

https://www.geldscheine-online.com/...ine-und-mehr

Thanks for the answer and link which is very interesting.

Prior of preparing my Exhibit sheets I have consulted the examiners for Danzig stamps and got following answer:
Quote:
In any case, the printing of the Danzig stamps took place in Danzig. Exceptions are the intaglio prints, for which there were no suitable machines in Danzig. However, these are on the watermark paper known elsewhere from the Deutsches Reich!
Unquote.

Who else if not the Sauer Printing Press should still have paper with the Danzig watermark? The quantity of these stamps, I even believe they were only essays or proofs, apparently was very limited and they may have used the reminders of paper they still had

The question is what watermark are we talking about.

The article would suggest "Druckerei des Postscheckamtes Danzig." It mentions the Postdruckerei Danzig printed stamps for Danzig from 1935. However, this appears to be a typo for 1925. So, it might have been the latter. That aligns with

Its watermark (as per Michel) watermark (WZ 3)

That, also, was used by the Postdruckerei Danzig according to online listings. It aligns with the reply you received.




and does not require speculation that a printer kept security paper for years after its contract for printing stamps expired and then used it randomly.

Thanks..., by no means I am specialist for German material and rely for such stamps on information I receive from others.

Can you inform me about the online Listings about Postduckerei Danzig and that they used this paper?

Member PostmasterGS is an expert on German stamps of the period, including Danzig.