Need Help Identifying Washington 2c Coils

Hi all. I shouldn't have trouble with this, but I am having trouble trying to reach a conclusion on a few Washington 2c coils. I have scanned the front and back and you can see them below. I don't know how clear they are. I will add individual scans. Best as I can tell, the two stamps on the left are Type I or Type II. The one on the right is Type III because it has the extra shading in the ribbons. I believe all of these are Rotary Press. Best I can tell, they are not watermarked, but that doesn't mean I am correct. Assuming I am correct with Rotary Press, the Type III is either #455 or #492. If either of the two on the left are Type I, then it must be #453. If either of the two on the left are Type II, then it is either #454 or #491.




Thanks for looking and any help you might provide.

Note: I don't always trust what a previous collector wrote on the back of a stamp.

These might be more clear. Left to right above are top to bottom here:

From the top Type I, Type I and Type III.

For reference, can someone post a clear Type II image? I'll look at Stamp Smarter, too.

https://stampsmarter.org/1847usa/wa..._03main.html

https://stampsmarter.org/1847usa/wa...2cType2.html
Don

Thanks, Don, I hadn't found that page before.

Under a microscope, I am able to see areas 5 and 6 (based on Don's 2nd link above) very clearly and they are Type II. This is for both the left and middle stamps. I cannot figure out how get a more clear picture of the stamp that can zoom in on that detail. My scanner only goes to 600 dpi and it just doesn't keep the image clear when I try to cut out those sections. I will keep experimenting.

And time to take another look for a watermark since it is highly unlikely that I have a #491.

You don't need a microscope. You don't have to look farther than the toga lines. Type I for the middle stamp.

Maybe this helps...

The line in the ribbon you are magnifying is not solid in Type I either. It is easy to get wrapped around the axle on these. Keep it simple and look at the toga rope lines and you will have what you need for an answer.

@rogdcam, I appreciate all your responses and I agree that the toga button and rope appears to be Type I, but I'll say that both are more defined than the normal Type I, certainly more than the picture on Stamp Smarter. I have a Type I that is Flat Plate (#444) and both the button and rope on that stamp are very weak. The Stamp Smarter site says the area 5 and area 6 features that I have shown are never found on a Type I. Not that I am saying what I have aren't both Type I, it's just that something doesn't add up when I look at my Flat Plate stamp which clearly does not have Type II features for area 5 and area 6, but these Rotary Press stamps both have the features. I still can't get a clear picture of area 5, but under a microscope, that 1st line at the ribbon fold is definitely three distinct dots. The area 6 definitely shows a vertical line joining the bottom 5 horizontal lines.