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Posted 11/06/2023   11:14 am  Show Profile Check GeoffHa's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add GeoffHa to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
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Posted 11/06/2023   11:19 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add NSK to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Many smaller British Islands issued local stamps. These are local carrier labels and not recognised postage stamps. Sark still does.


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I talked to Marty @ Scott and he said Guernsey didnt start issuing stamps until the 1950's.


That is not correct. Guernsey and Jersey started issuing stamps either in the 1940s, or in the late 1960s.
The regional Wildings were never issued by Guernsey and Jersey, etc. They were issued by the GPO in London, valid in the UK, the Channel Islands and the Isle of Man. When Guernsey and Jersey became postally independent, they were no longer valid. (Man decimalised and used Machins before becoming postally independent)

If you consider the German occupation stamps issued in the respective islands as a issue by the islands, they started issuing stamps in the 1940s. These stamps were never valid elsewhere in the British isles.
If you consider these stamps issued by an occupying force in the occupied part of the British isles and as such 'British' then they started issuing stamps when they became postally independent in the late 1960s.
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Posted 11/06/2023   11:28 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Stamps4Life to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Yep. When I told him that - in the 1940's - he got a little flustered. I then knew, oh well.... My handy The Stamp Atlas book by Wellsted, Rossiter, etc. helped confirm the history.
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Posted 11/06/2023   11:52 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Stamps4Life to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Guess I'll be making my own pages. Even here, https://www.dauwalders.co.uk/printe...s-4486-c.asp, when I click Guernsey, erc., I get, "Sorry, this category has no products".
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Posted 11/06/2023   1:01 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add NSK to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
This is the mess DAVO makes of it, At least, they put them in their GB album.

1. Guernsey issued under German occupation


2. Jersey issued under German occupation


3. GPO issue commemorating the third anniversary of the Channel Islands liberation


These last two stamps were intended for use in the Channel Islands. However, they were valid for use in the UK as well and should not be back-of-book.
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Posted 11/06/2023   1:23 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Stamps4Life to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I think thats what I a looking for. The other thread I had started with the GB QEII Album, it has regionals , but the Guernsey page was messed up - cut. But what you posted looks like it. I was hoping there was a complete pages somewhere - occupied, regular issues all in one. I dont have many so at this point seems easier to make my own pages I guess.
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Posted 11/06/2023   1:38 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add NSK to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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Guess I'll be making my own pages. Even here, https://www.dauwalders.co.uk/printe...-4486-c.asp, when I click Guernsey, erc., I get, "Sorry, this category has no products".


It appears Dauwalders needs some extra time to implement the licensing deal with SG. These are the DAVO albums.
My DAVO Guernsey and Jersey albums did not include the wartime occupation issues. They only reserved spaces in the GB album (vol. I, back of book).


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Yep. When I told him that - in the 1940's - he got a little flustered. I then knew, oh well.... My handy The Stamp Atlas book by Wellsted, Rossiter, etc. helped confirm the history.


Well, that certainly does not make me change my mind about Scott's European and Colonies listings.

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Posted 11/06/2023   2:02 pm  Show Profile Check GeoffHa's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add GeoffHa to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
If you have a Davo/SG album for GB and want to continue to use it, it might make sense to buy some Davo blank leaves and work from there. Ideally, Guernsey and Jersey should be separate. And the later regional issues should be separate from the wartime and immediate post-war material.
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Posted 11/06/2023   2:06 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add NSK to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The Blank pages also give you the option to add shades.
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Posted 11/06/2023   2:12 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add NSK to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Some nice resistance history (hidden messages) involved with those Jersey stamps.

https://www.historyalive.je/2017/01...ands-part-1/
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Posted 11/06/2023   2:32 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Stamps4Life to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Just got a response from Chris Dauwalder - he said the Channel Islands should be updated on their site later this week. I didnt know SG had farmed it out until this am. I was pleasantly surprised in getting an answer so fast - I hardly ever got a timely response from SG!
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Posted 11/06/2023   2:54 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add NSK to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Since the SG albums are rebranded DAVO albums, keep in mind that Channel Islands may only start in 1969 and not include these stamp or the Wilding regionals. They will be in the Great Britain album.
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Posted 11/07/2023   02:31 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add NSK to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
@Stamps4Life,

Have you checked there is no page in the set shown here: https://goscf.com/t/85443?
That appears to be a set of DAVO Great Britain part I pages (1840-1970).If it is complete with a.o. postage due pages, there also should be a "Channel Islands" page with those stamps.
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Posted 11/07/2023   08:56 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Stamps4Life to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
@ NSK - yes thanks. That's what I mentioned above in the 1:23pm post. It has the pages , but the page was messed up , torn & cut. At this point, just going to make my own. I thought they might be in Steiner, but could find them there either. I have the link from the other thread on the occupied pages free set & will make the other pages.
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Posted 11/07/2023   1:56 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Stamps4Life to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
This'll have to do for now. I trimmed another messed up page and will just put it in a slip cover w/ some FDC's and Blocks....


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