Scott Catalog And Airmail Cover

Here's one that missed it by one day.

Absolutely. As well as postcards mailed on that day using the old rate, both with postage due and without. In particular (for all 3 types) if they are genuine usages, not philatelic.


Edit: Yep, jmz, that's what I'm talking about.

While I was looking for a military example of note to compliment John Becker's comment above, I found these images which I will post first since I made reference to such covers.












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Now to the 150 minute greatest last stands in naval history and the most lopsided naval victory in history. A "Commanding Officer's estimate of the situation, that is, a fight against overwhelming odds from which survival could not be expected, during which time we would do what damage we could. In the face of this knowledge, the men zealously manned their stations wherever they might be, and fought and worked with such calmness, courage, and efficiency that no higher honor could be conceived than to command such a group of men."





Now for the example John Becker mention about family. First is a WWII item let go by the granddaughter of the intended recipient. She did not do so lightly in 2016 and the dealer promised it a good home and exposure to an audience beyond her family. She still has postings throughout the internet asking for any information about her grandfather on his last day when as Chief Boatswain's Mate, he and his command could no longer keep the USS Hoel DD-533 afloat and operational as he was tasked to do. This Christmas parcel was send to him in September 1944 as suggested for Christmas arrival. It went to San Francisco and then some distance to the west by October 25, 1944, exactly where is unknown, then it was routed to Washington DC and again to the family in the Southern California area.





To learn why the package could not reach J. P. Goggin, CBM for Christmas, search, "The Battle Off Samar" which is considered the central action of the days long Battle of Leyte Gulf. Also read this https://www.wtvr.com/heroes-among-u...-of-uss-hoel eyewitness description from 2021, updated 2023, from the now 98 year old last survivor of the USS Hoel, DD-533. He was only 96 when being interviewed.

Said by the commander of the Hoel, "Fully cognizant of the inevitable result of engaging such vastly superior forces, these men performed their assigned duties coolly and efficiently until their ship was shot from under them."

Below from the Korean War is an item I received from a 90+ year old legal secretary who final sold it off a few years back. She always thought it and the young sender were special. She felt it needed to find a home that would appreciate it. Surprisingly it is one of five or more C-46 items from during and just after hostilities ceased in Korea I have found. Note the wrong year in the cancel, 1942 rather than 1952. The stamp was not issued until March 26, 1952.




Edited to add missing link for interview.

Thank you for the privilege to view those last two military covers. It's not always about the dollar value of the item.

On the C46, "Note the wrong year in the cancel, 1942 rather than 1952. The stamp was not issued until March 26, 1952", I think that "942" is the APO number (see return address) not the year 1942. The bottom tips of the digits of the date can be seen, and looks to be correct as 1952.

You may very well be correct, but when I look at the "942", it looks off center from the "10" above it, if you look at the numeral "4" itself. I do see what you are talking about with the possible bottoms of the digits of a date. It is hard to believe that the cancel was set up with the wrong date.

Collectible, yes. Any commercial rate change item is collectible, not necessarily valuable, be it the last day of the old rate or first day of the new rate. If you collect postage due stamps you want the item mailed on the first day at the old rate then with postage due assess and collected. For the other collectors, first day of new rate properly paid is satisfactory.

That said, there are some modern stamps (last 30 years) issued just a short period of time before a rate change, one just days. Properly used covers in that narrow time frame are hard to find, don't cost much yet and even after years of aging, will always be scare to rare. By memory one such I believe was a Chinese New Year issue post 1991 and pre 1999. I mailed some covers from a post office I only visited at the Christmas/New years period. Did not meet the current better half until 1991 and we stopped vacationing there by 1999 (1998 being the last year end). If I am wrong on the issue, I should be correct on the age range.

Rate change items are far more difficult in the 21st century due to the fact they tend to occur on Sundays and the few Post Offices (often at large airfields) which used to be open on Sundays now close on Sundays.

Back to the card you pictured, that is why I do not share many search secrets . It still has only one bid placed hours before your post. I needed to see what some items would cost me before I placed my bid on this six+ hours ago.

Edited to add, one downside to this and many other postage due items is the stamp is precancel by a roller cancel and is not tied to the item. Tied is preferred.

Good to know, I kind of thought that would be the case. That give's me something else to search for as I look through listings.




LOL, who would have thunk it!

I'm pretty sure I found this card before you shared YOUR search secrets with me, lol.

Edit: Does this mean I've lost a mentor?

the day of the month and the "942"

ZebraMan, you may be right. There is space between the day of the month and the "942" but in my case I took the ink spots you mention as from the upper corner of the piece making "_942"

I will no longer consider it an postmark EFO due to that uncertainty. (yes, I collector those)



It happens more than you think for the hand changed cancelling devices. I will not clutter this thread with my two favorite Q (parcel post) examples. Look in Henry's PP book on the section on the 75 cent issue. Note the upside down "1918" in the cancel used to cancel the entire pane and tie it to the backing. He and I discussed the inverted date issue which he had not notice previously. I received the item from him. The other is an item I found, it was a post card mailed from a resort area with a seasonal (summer) post office. It was clearly dated as Aug 16 1912. Clerk forgot to change the year date. Aug 16 was months before the Postmaster General approved the model of the parcel post frame which happen to use the 2 cent value. Then there was discussion about the individual central vignettes.




Ahhhh, no.

Just a "postage due" search cut down to United States and Covers return 1400+ items , heck that's not ever 6 full pages to scroll through at 240 per page. No big earth shaking reveal here. (added by edit)

But you don't get my "catalog search" method for the plus a nickel goodies.

Probably NOBODY gets that.

]I just realized you have 57 posts, at least 56 are quality, the last was just begging.

I will send or try to send you an email via SCF messaging now...

I tried and got this, well in a smaller version, too small to process as a screenshot::


So does that mean you want no contract or you do but the SCF Gods have not yet caught up with you having 50 quality posts? Now, I am not sure if when you don't want to receive emails on the SCF, that you are prevented from sending others emails once you exceed 50 quality posts. [Click on user's avatar name, not picture, and then select "send an email" under contact info.]

Edit to add missing"ed."

Now I can finally start asking you really dumb stamp collecting questions.

See my edit to my post above. And thanks for the "vis SCXF" part of the quote, I did fix it with my edit, too slowly of course

I'm quite sure I accepted getting emails from members when I signed up. I think it might be that the SCF staff are lagging behind.