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Sc#26 Double Transfer

 
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Posted 04/15/2024   3:20 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add Murasama to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
I have seen that in the Scott catalog for number Sc#26, appears, "double transfer rosettes, double and line through "postage" and "three cents"". I have seen among my copies this model that I think is SC#26, which seemed to have a double transfer in "Postage" and "Cents", but I have seen a copy with that double transfer reflected in the catalog and it has nothing to do with the mine, since this double transfer supposes a line crossing the letters. However, my copy has a curious characteristic, since all the S have white dots inside, identical in both "Postage" and "Cent", and other dots can see. What do you think about it? If I only had one I would consider it normal, but in all the S it seems at least curious to me... I have also observed that the interior design is very separated from the frame lines so as not to have a second line, leaving a white space. .






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Posted 04/15/2024   3:33 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add NSK to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
A white area is indicative of a non-printed area. Would a double transfer cause an unprinted area or an extra printed area?
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Posted 04/15/2024   3:38 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Murasama to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I don't know what it could be...obviously they are unprinted areas, like those that give shape to the letters...the curious thing is that it occurs in all the S, both in the top and bottom legend...
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Posted 04/15/2024   3:46 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add NSK to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Was the stamp recess or surface printed? What was transferred? the printed or the unprinted area?
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Posted 04/15/2024   3:50 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Murasama to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Printed...
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Posted 04/15/2024   3:51 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add NSK to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
If it was the printed area, how can a double transfer cause a non-printed area?
Shouldn't a double transfer then add an extra printed area that would show up in what should be non-printed?
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Edited by NSK - 04/15/2024 3:53 pm
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Posted 04/15/2024   4:02 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Murasama to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Maybe because one of the prints didn't cover the blank space left by the other? I don't know...
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Posted 04/15/2024   4:06 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add NSK to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Two prints that show no doubling of the design = double transfer?
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Posted 04/15/2024   4:12 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Murasama to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Isn't the white space to form the letter part of the design?
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Posted 04/15/2024   9:43 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Classic Coins to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Murasama,

The title of your post is "Sc#26 Double Transfer," but the "curious characteristic" that you described is "white dots."

The white spots where there should be ink in the label blocks were caused by ink from the plate failing to adhere to the paper during the printing process. The paper used for the printing of this issue was moistened prior to printing so that the paper could be pressed into the recesses (the design entries) in the plate to pick up the ink. If the paper was too dry, it may not have been soft enough to get sufficiently pressed into the design entries on the plate where the ink was, resulting in the ink not getting picked up in spots.

Double transfers occur during the plate construction process, not during the printing process. Double transfers occur when the relief on the transfer roll shifts out of place when the design is being entered into the plate from the transfer roll. As the other members above indicated, a double transfer on the plate would cause parts of the design (ink) to show in areas that should be white (no ink).


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Isn't the white space to form the letter part of the design?

The white lettering is part of the design of the printed stamp. However, the white areas on the printed stamp correspond to the areas on the plate where no part of the design from the die and transfer roll was entered, therefore they are un-inked areas.
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Posted 04/15/2024   9:59 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Murasama to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks for the response.. so the other stamps that accompanied this one on the plate will have similar defects due to the dry paper? Is it EFO?
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Posted 04/15/2024   10:10 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Classic Coins to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Dry paper printings occur more frequently near the edges of the sheet, because those edges dried out faster when the moistened sheets were sitting in a pile waiting for printing. So you can't assume that because your stamp has white spots, all the other stamps on the sheet had white spots.

It is a very common printing variety, with no EFO premium.

Here is an #11A from position 92L1L with some of the double transferred areas annotated with arrows, including a line through THREE CENTS. The doubled areas show as ink where there should be no ink.


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Posted 04/15/2024   10:18 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Classic Coins to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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so the other stamps that accompanied this one on the plate will have similar defects due to the dry paper?

I want to emphasize that the white spots on your stamp have nothing to do with plate defects. Since they are not due to plate defects, all other stamps printed from the same plate will not show the white spots.
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Posted 04/16/2024   08:24 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Murasama to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I understand..Very Thanks!!
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Edited by Murasama - 04/16/2024 08:25 am
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