Stamp Community Family of Web Sites
Thousands of stamps, consistently graded, competitively priced and hundreds of in-depth blog posts to read








Stamp Community Forum
 
Username:
Password:
Save Password
Forgot your Password?

This page may contain links that result in small commissions to keep this free site up and running.

Welcome Guest! Registering and/or logging in will remove the anchor (bottom) ads. It's Free!

1851-57 12c Washington

Previous Page | Next Page    
 
To participate in the forum you must log in or register.
Author Previous TopicReplies: 161 / Views: 12,589Next Topic
Page: of 11
Valued Member
Learn More...
United States
348 Posts
Posted 04/30/2024   3:55 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Chipshot to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
An image for consideration. Not a very nice stamp, however who knows if it might add to the data being collected. Looks like a guide dot on the lower right.
Send note to Staff  Go to Top of Page
Valued Member
Learn More...
United States
327 Posts
Posted 05/01/2024   11:17 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Harper1249 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The upcoming Paradise Valley Auction has a nice strip of 4.
https://www.stamp-one.com/stamps/pv/s122/87753.jpg
Send note to Staff  Go to Top of Page
Pillar Of The Community
United States
1317 Posts
Posted 05/01/2024   11:49 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add jaxom100 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Chipshot, not enough detail to plate that one. Enlarged image is blurry.

Harper, Thank you. That strip of 4 is 63-66L1.
Send note to Staff  Go to Top of Page
Pillar Of The Community
United States
1317 Posts
Posted 05/02/2024   12:09 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add jaxom100 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
That strip of 4 gave me two more spacing images. Only one left. However, Neinken has appeared to have made two errors. Spacings 1-2 and 3-4. He calls both "even to slightly higher and in both cases, they are slightly lower. Should I leave the text as Neinken called it or should I change it?
Send note to Staff  Go to Top of Page
Pillar Of The Community
United States
763 Posts
Posted 05/02/2024   09:31 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Germania to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Here is a pair from my collection, columns 9 and 10.


Send note to Staff  Go to Top of Page
Pillar Of The Community
United States
3488 Posts
Posted 05/02/2024   10:16 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add txstamp to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

Quote:
Neinken has appeared to have made two errors


Yea, I see what you are saying. If that is consistent (as one would expect) across all of the column positions that you can find - so you are sure this isn't a one-off, then clearly, make the change. They are close, so the 'even' word probably still applies in addition to 'slightly lower'.
Send note to Staff  Go to Top of Page
Pillar Of The Community
6329 Posts
Posted 05/02/2024   10:48 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add John Becker to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
If the descriptions are based primarily on Neinken's research, then I would recommend a thorough paper trail of the change so that future scholars note the correction, rather than them possibly concluding an error was made in transcribing Neinkin's information if just a correcting change is made. For example, I would would write. Neinken labeled this in error as "xxx", but closer examination shows it is actually "yyy".
Send note to Staff  Go to Top of Page
Pillar Of The Community
United States
1317 Posts
Posted 05/03/2024   11:24 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add jaxom100 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I think I got all the information for my 12c plating program query.
I will need to figure out that spacing issue for 1-2 and 3-4 to gather my information correctly. Then I need to answer all of these questions for all 200 positions. Any thoughts?
Here is how the page will look:
Send note to Staff  Go to Top of Page
Pillar Of The Community
United States
1317 Posts
Posted 05/05/2024   12:04 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add jaxom100 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Here is a strip of 3 showing 6 guide dots and the spacing of the stamp before and after it. With the first stamp having a guide dot above the inner frame line, it was easy to plate. It is position 22-24L1. It shows the spacing 1-2L and 3-4L that are in question. They both match the images that I made for my spacing chart showing the second and fourth stamp as slightly lower not slightly higher as Neinken stated. Look at the strip and then the spacing chart shown here. The top images are what I had and the bottom images are from this strip.

Send note to Staff  Go to Top of Page
Valued Member
Learn More...
United States
348 Posts
Posted 05/06/2024   2:58 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Chipshot to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Here is an improved image of my earlier posted stamp.
Send note to Staff  Go to Top of Page
Valued Member
Learn More...
United States
348 Posts
Posted 05/06/2024   3:30 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Chipshot to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I am thinking 39L1 might be the position. I also think the line in the O of postage might be confirmation.
Send note to Staff  Go to Top of Page
Pillar Of The Community
United States
1317 Posts
Posted 05/07/2024   12:16 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add jaxom100 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Chipshot, it is not 39L1. The guide dot on 39L1 does not touch the outer frame line. Your stamp's guide dot does touch the OFL. Looking at the image posted, it does line up though (see bottom images for guide dot alignment). 61L1 looks like a good match but the guide dot does not line up. I think it is 28L1. The guide dot touches the OFL and lines up. As far as the dot in the "O" of "POSTAGE", all stamps have that mark. I originally thought it was a plating mark too but they all have it. 28L1 also shows the upper left corner as weak.


Send note to Staff  Go to Top of Page
Valued Member
Learn More...
United States
348 Posts
Posted 05/07/2024   11:48 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Chipshot to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you very much for the time you are spending for me and for all of those that are interested!
Send note to Staff  Go to Top of Page
Pillar Of The Community
United States
1317 Posts
Posted 05/07/2024   11:59 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add jaxom100 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Rslny, this is one of your stamps. It took a bit of searching to find the match. It has a lower right guide dot as well as the stamp above. On this stamp the guide dot is on the OFL and the stamp above is inside the frame lines. The stamp to the left is significantly lower. This points to columns 3 and 6 on the left pane and only column 9 on the right pane since column 10 has no guide dot. That narrows it down to 24 positions. Also worth noting is the top left corner is over extended on the stamp and the stamp above is over extended in the lower left corner. From those 3 columns, the only spot that matches the two guide dots and the extensions is 23L1. That is a positive match.

Send note to Staff  Go to Top of Page
Edited by jaxom100 - 05/08/2024 12:03 am
Pillar Of The Community
United States
1317 Posts
Posted 05/08/2024   01:29 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add jaxom100 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
This last stamp has prompted me to add a new section to the plating query that I am working on. I added the section for "Stamp Above LR Guide Dot". A look at the new query sheet shows 4 selections that would give the result of only 23L1. It is possible that 3 of the 4 selections would pin point it.
Send note to Staff  Go to Top of Page
Page: of 11 Previous TopicReplies: 161 / Views: 12,589Next Topic  
Previous Page | Next Page
 
To participate in the forum you must log in or register.

Go to Top of Page

Disclaimer: While a tremendous amount of effort goes into ensuring the accuracy of the information contained in this site, Stamp Community assumes no liability for errors. Copyright 2005 - 2026 Stamp Community Family - All rights reserved worldwide. Use of any images or content on this website without prior written permission of Stamp Community or the original lender is strictly prohibited.
Privacy Policy / Terms of Use    Advertise Here
Stamp Community Forum © 2007 - 2026 Stamp Community Forums
It took 0.2 seconds to lick this stamp. Powered By: Snitz Forums 2000 Version 3.4.05