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US Wine Revenue Scott #re9. Unlisted Print On Gum Side?

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Posted 06/01/2024   01:43 am  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add archiguy to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Could you please Explain me What does mean unusual print US Wine REVENUE RE9 (I guess it is GUM SIDE printing) Is it rare or common? Thanks
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Posted 06/01/2024   07:59 am  Show Profile Check eyeonwall's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add eyeonwall to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
looks to be regummed
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Posted 06/01/2024   08:43 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add revcollector to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
It's used, and it was applied with some kind of gum to whatever it was on, whether it was a box or a bottle.
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Posted 06/01/2024   10:35 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add essayk to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
For a taxpaid revenue stamp I suggest that you not soak it until you can be sure that the adhesive does not belong there. It may have been applied by the original user in accordance with special regs at the time.
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Posted 06/01/2024   11:39 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add revcollector to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
It was part of the original use, so there is no reason to try to remove it. It is probably not water soluble in any case.
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Posted 06/01/2024   10:38 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add PhilaFactor to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
For the revenue experts... Judging from the early RE listings in Scott (I have the 2021 edition), it seems that if gumming is not explicitly mentioned, it is assumed that they're gummed. Is that correct?

As for gum on the face, could it be varnish? I'm aware of other type of revenues for which a coating of varnish was required to attach them to barrels, etc., so I'm wondering if what appears to be gum might actually be varnish.
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Posted 06/01/2024   11:02 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add revcollector to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Yes, it is varnish or shellac, or some clear substance that will paste the stamp to the document, carton, or bottle.
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Posted 06/01/2024   11:20 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add PhilaFactor to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
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Posted 06/02/2024   12:53 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add archiguy to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Additional Information:!!!

I examined the perforation: glue or some similar substances were applied to the stamp after perforation.
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Posted 06/02/2024   01:07 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add archiguy to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Important clarification:
the gum was applied after a perforation of sheet of stamps, but before the stamps was torn off from the sheet.
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Posted 06/02/2024   01:21 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add PhilaFactor to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Intriguing!

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the gum was applied after a perforation of sheet of stamps, but before the stamps was torn off from the sheet.

What are you observing that suggests that sequence of events?

Also, what leads you to think that the face of the stamp is coated with gum, and not shellac or varnish as mentioned above?
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I do not deny that this is shellac or varnish.. I used the words glue to simplify the description. Moreover, the coating is most likely NOT glue!! The coating has flowed into the perforation hols, therefore the coating was done after punching. The lack of coating on the teeth indicates that it was done before the stamp was torn off
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Posted 06/02/2024   10:57 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add revcollector to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
If there is varnish or shellac in the holes then it is also on the teeth, it would not have been applied until after the stamp had been placed on whatever surface was required to pay the tax involved. This was a common method of additional canceling while insuring that it would not accidentally fall off. There was no reason to add this to a full or partial sheet.
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Posted 06/02/2024   1:00 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add archiguy to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Have a look ,please. Your opinion?

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Posted 06/02/2024   4:48 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add revcollector to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
You can see on the reverse how the varnish/shellac soaked into the perfs.
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Posted 06/02/2024   5:15 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add m and m to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
It's shellac or varnish residue.........ie. a typical used stamp.
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