Germania 60 PF Having Trouble Determining Colour

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Hi folks, even using the most excellent site at

https://www.germanstamps.net/germania-id/

(Many, many thanks to those who did all that work!!)

I can not figure out for sure what the colour of this 60 pf stamp is. It helped nail down the rest of my Germania stamps but this one I'm still not sure of...

Any clarification welcome!

All I can say is good luck. The only sure way to determine the shade is to have it expertized by the appropriate BPP person in Germany. Here is a link to a trove of information on this issue and its shades:

https://www.stampsx.com/forum/topic.php?id=10754&

Your stamp is a war printing which comes in three listed shades. You may be interested to know that the peace printing of this issue used to come in two shades but now there is only one. The second shade was delisted when it was determined there was no conclusive method to distinguish between them.

Thanks for the information and the link!

Agree with Germania . You would need to mail it to a expert organization to get the correct color identified . Problem being it doesn't look like for the cost it is worth it.

I try to scan mine and the scanner can't pick up the correct colors ,so that cause a I.D. problem to show you mine shade differences .

Germania, can you step me through how you make the determination that it's a War printing? I'm still not very good at it and have a pile that I just can't decide about.

I do have the Michel catalog that shows examples of Peace and War printings. The Peace one being very clear and the War one being very dark and smudgy.

On this one, I do see the date of 1918, but to my very novice eye it looks like it could still go either way. What are the key giveaways?

Thanks

Mainer, the short story is that there are not just 2 printings but multiple printings that go from Peace to War. These stamps were printed from 1905 to 1919 so there is a lot of room for variation. See this thread which goes into more detail:
https://goscf.com/t/70892

Also, there are going to be a few stamps which one will not be able to positively identify as Peace or War.

Thanks for all replies! My scanner is pretty good but I understand the issue. I have just the three but you can see the differences in colour. The left two I have no big problem identifying, it was the right one...

There are clear differences between the two types , but as said by Germania ,many times it is hard to identify especially on heavy canceled used stamps . Let me see if I can redo my scans to show the differences

Notice the Horiz. lines in front of the face ,this goes from the fore head down to the lips ,there are thicker lines ,much like a front shadow . These are on the war stamps . these lines are thicker close to the face and thin out as your eyes move away from the face .

There is also a difference {you can see it on my stamps because of the cancel } in the top of the crown in the OBIT . there is a horiz. line thru the center of the obit on the later stamps this line looks like a extension of a line thru the design of the stamp . but on the early stamps this Horiz. line thru the obit is on a angle and doesn't connect to the two lines of the design .

Thanks for that thread Germania, I missed it somehow when I was digging through past posts to try and figure these out. That's a fascinating point about the range of printings over those years. Very helpful.




Floortrader - Thank you, great tips.

Here is more information which will either be enlightening or confusing. It's from the book Germania-Farbbuch Farbtafeln der Germania-Ausgaben 52-97 [Germania Color Charts for Michel Numbers 52 to 97].

Germania, thanks! That actually helps me a lot. From those it's clear to me my unknown colour is the 92 II b violet purple.

Much appreciated!!

I also see why you'd need to get certification for these ....