Three Cent Stamp Without Grill

locomotove 3 cent without grill

Unlikely that anyone would certify the stamp on cover, the stamp would have to be removed from the cover to see if the stamp had even a lightly -pressed grill.
From the front, I see something that looks like impressions from grill points to the right of the smokestack of the train.

The stamp is definitely grilled.

Stamp almost certainly isn't original to this cover. It has been placed over a hand-written marking. May as well remove the stamp and get it certified, as appropriate, since in it's current state it is nothing more than a contrivance.

I don't agree. Who hasn't ever addressed a letter and then placed a stamp on the letter that approaches or covers part of the handwritten address? Maybe only me (I use a lot of plate singles on letters and the bottom selvage sometimes encroaches on the top line of the address).

Regardless, a scan of the complete cover (front and back) would help answer a couple of questions about the item.

I missed that, assuming the location of the writing meant it was a postal marking. Still, the cancel covers the perfs but not the paper next to it.

shermae, what in the world are you talking about? First was overlooked the obvious, that the stamp simply covered a bit of the addressing or endorsement. Now the squarish obliterator is said to not "tie" the stamp to the cover? Of course it does.

trust, given the title of your post regarding "grill", when I first saw your picture I immediately noticed a grill pattern impression or likeness to the right of the locomotive smokestack, just as another poster noted.

I don't have the correct software to show the result, but there is definitely a grill pattern in the right, middle of the stamp.

I agree with Partime. It does look like there is a pattern there. But whether it is a grill is another thing.

wellcome for your note

On the same subject, can anyone see a grill on my example? I can't see one myself, but perhaps you can.



Here's the front:

Pretend that you are looking for a watermark and dip it in fluid, that should bring up the grill. Probably near the bottom.

1869s without grill are worthless without a cert.

The PF has made it very clear they won't issue a cert on any ungrilled 1869 unless it has original gum.

It is far too easy to press the grill out of a used example.

Even when pressed out, dipping the stamp will often show signs of the grill. Usually it has to be looked at at an oblique angle under the light, but it often does show something.

Thanks for the comments!

I would say there is a trace of a grill on the righthand edge (as seen from the back) halfway up.