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French Equitorial Africa Cover - Value Assessment

 
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Posted 09/13/2024   7:28 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add Suku to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
I recently purchased this cover in the Netherlands for 25 pounds. The Scott's classic catalogue appears to value this cover for a few hundred dollars. It makes me question its authenticity. Thought I'd check with the forum/experts.
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Posted 09/13/2024   9:06 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add John Becker to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Suku,
I know nothing about this area, but a gentle hint to help those who know help you the best, please provide as much information as you know to eliminate squinting at your image, specifically:
1. Date and place of origin postmark
2. Destination.
3. Do you know the rate this was to pay? (philatelic mail vs commercial mail makes a difference, and exact/proper rates are important too.)
4. What Scott numbers are these? (it initially looked like 40, 41, 53, and 126 to me, but then I see the overprints on the basic stamps - thus the *importance* of telling us exactly what you see.)
5. Are any of the stamps damaged?
6. Any markings or return address on the reverse side?
7.Since value depends so much upon condition, a full scan of the front and back sides is desirable - a scan which extends beyond the edges by a quarter of an inch since edges and corners are important. The image provided is overlapped on the left side and reduced(?) on the right side.

Bottom line, the more you tell and show us, the more we can tell you in return.
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Posted 09/13/2024   9:18 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add billsey to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
My Classic is a few years old, and they say $130 there, for the 25c usage. It's pretty obviously philatelic and posted late for those issues but not terribly late. There was a whole new set issued between these and the post date, which also argues for philatelic use. I don't know what Scott is using for criteria, they may include philatelic uses in their price, or may only choose regular postal use...
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Posted 09/13/2024   9:29 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Suku to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
This is so helpful, John. Thank you. I'm very new to collecting.
The cover is postmarked March 26, 1942. I can't make out the origin, but there is a back-stamp noting Brazzaville RPO Congo (is that railway transport?). The RPO is dated April 17, 1942. There are no arrival markings for England. But there is an 'open by examiner 4884' which I assume is British censor tape. There is also French censor tape. So double censored.
Another interesting bit is the destination address. It reads Mrs. Hale, Conservative Central Office, 68 Palace Chambers, Bridge Thick (not sure), London. So was perhaps a French citizen writing to the British Conservative Party during the war.
The stamps are all over prints. As far as I can make out they include Scott Specialized Catalogue Numbers for French Equatorial Africa as follows: 87, 88, 103 and 126. The Scott #103 is damaged. And there is censor tape covering the perforations of two of the Scott #87.
I'm unsure of the rate during this time period so I can't tell whether this is commercial or philatelic.
The overall condition of the cover I would grade as G. There are no creases, there stamps are all well centered. In fact, the Scott #87 is a block of 4 intact. Corners are okay with some rounding edges, but the censor tape kept the envelope in good shape.



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Posted 09/13/2024   9:45 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add John Becker to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Suku,
Valuing postal history is an art and Scott is only a general guide as each feature you describe adds or subtracts to the monetary and postal history research value (non monetary). Thus the impotrtance of seeing the entirety of both sides. It may amaze you what the readers can tell you about your cover when they can see it all.
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Posted 09/13/2024   11:44 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Suku to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks again, John...
Here are snaps of the front and back.
This is not my collecting area, and so any feedback on authenticity and +/- attributes that go into valuation of this particular cover would be appreciated.


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Posted 09/14/2024   01:11 am  Show Profile Check GeoffHa's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add GeoffHa to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
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Posted 09/14/2024   08:45 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add perf12 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The cover is genuine; .British & French censor tapes is always a +.
Delcampe item in auction:
https://www.delcampe.net/fr/collect...1177640.html
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Posted 09/14/2024   09:49 am  Show Profile Check GeoffHa's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add GeoffHa to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
From the handwriting, I'd guess that the sender was English.

Shouldn't the stamps pay a higher rate in March 1942?
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Posted 09/14/2024   11:15 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add perf12 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The letter was not sent by air-mail.
Surface mail international from the feb. 1 1940 tariff rate was 2F50 for 20g..
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Posted 09/14/2024   11:28 am  Show Profile Check GeoffHa's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add GeoffHa to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Ah, I thought the tariff had changed in early-1942.
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Posted 09/14/2024   11:45 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add perf12 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The tariff changed in dec. 1942. For instance,for 20g surface mail it was 4F. registered + 4F
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Posted 09/14/2024   11:45 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Suku to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you to all who responded. I'm learning so much from the members on this site.
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