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How Would You Rate This Stamp Out Of 10 ?

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Posted 12/16/2024   2:08 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add Captain Stamp to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Hello everyone !

How would you rate this stamp out of 10 ? You can rate this stamp by his historical value, his condition, his cash value, how beautiful it's, by everything you want ! This is Scott #4 1855 from cape of good hope. Please be honest ! Can't wait to see your rate ! (Sorry for not good enough image quality, I can't do better for now )

CS
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Posted 12/16/2024   2:42 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add perf12 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
beautiful:10
value:1
historical value:10
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Posted 12/16/2024   2:57 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rogdcam to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Historical Value: Five

Condition: Three (Poor margins (design cut in to), Toning/Stains) (Any thins?)

Cash Value: One ($10?)

Beauty: Three (She could use some GLP-1)
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Posted 12/16/2024   5:13 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Captain Stamp to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks for your rates perf12 and rodgcam !

The cash value is approximately 75$ CAD
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Edited by Captain Stamp - 12/16/2024 5:19 pm
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Posted 12/16/2024   5:37 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rogdcam to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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The cash value is approximately 75$ CAD


You are confusing catalog value with actual value. Recent actual sales data below.

https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_nk...=1&LH_Sold=1
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Posted 12/16/2024   5:45 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add floortrader to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The two posters are correct ,the actual value is closer to $1.00 due to condition issues .
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Posted 12/16/2024   5:50 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Captain Stamp to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Oh thanks floortrader and rodgcam !
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Posted 12/16/2024   10:37 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add floortrader to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I hate when people say stuff like that stamp is worthless .

It is not "worthless " There is a place for damaged ,stain , rip or pieces missing . I use them in my forgery collection . When you put the damage stamp next to a forgery most people can see for themself in a scan which is which . I have many forgeries which the real stamp cost hundreds of dollars or thousands and a fake can be picked up for 5 or 10 dollars . I don't need a very fine stamp that cost big dollars when a damaged one side by side can show the difference .

I believe this thinking holds up with stamp expertizes and philatelic societies who build their own reference library .
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Posted 12/16/2024   11:01 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Captain Stamp to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I understand, but wht are you talking about forgeries ? Mine is a genuine one, right ?
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Posted 12/16/2024   11:16 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add ZebraMan to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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I understand, but wh[y] are you talking about forgeries?


He puts the cheap damaged genuine stamp next to the forgery to easily compare them side by side.

That's a great idea. To pay $10 for a damaged $1000 stamp, mounted right next to a forgery, to make it easy to recognize and identify the characteristics of the forgery versus the genuine (but damaged) original. Better than paying hundreds of dollars for a sound genuine example to use as a reference comparison in the forgeries collection.
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Edited by ZebraMan - 12/16/2024 11:17 pm
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Posted 12/16/2024   11:25 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Captain Stamp to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I see but I still don't understand why he talks about comparating fakes and genuines, we were talking about actual value, that's it !
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Posted 12/17/2024   12:35 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add ZebraMan to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I don't want to speak for floortrader, but I will say that the actual value of any item at any moment in time is what a willing buyer and a willing seller agree to trade that item for at the present time. Some people may value the same item higher or lower, or the same person may be willing to pay less or more than that value at different points in their life.

I think that floortrader's reaction when people say a damaged stamp is worthless just means that value is in the eye of the beholder. What is worthless to one person may have value (economic or otherwise) to someone else.

Back to your original question, to me, your stamp is a 5 out of 10. I've seen worse, and I've seen better. Your stamp has nice bright color and a very light cancel allowing the detail of the design to be completely visible. But the stamp has some toning and the margins cut into the design.

p.s. 5 out of 10 does not mean that I value the stamp at 50% of catalog value. It just means that aesthetically it falls in the mid range of appearance. Regardless of economic value, to me the positives and negatives are equally balanced, aesthetically.
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Posted 12/17/2024   02:57 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Captain Stamp to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Ok I understand now ! Thanks !
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Posted 12/18/2024   4:30 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add billsey to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I have always used a point system to estimate street value when compared to catalog value. You take points off (or add them on) based on the condition. Yours would have a point off for the very close margin at the top right, two points off the the foxing stain at top, and three points off for the cut margin at bottom left. I can't say anything about potential faults on the back, and it's fairly common to find these with thins. That totals out to six points of visible faults. For each point, you cut the catalog value in half, so $78->39->20->10->5->2.5->1.25 gives an estimated street value of $1.25, very close to the $1 others have come up with. That system tends to work well for all exept the very expensive/rare issues and the very common/cheap issues.
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Edited by billsey - 12/18/2024 4:31 pm
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Posted 12/18/2024   7:46 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Captain Stamp to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Oh great way to calculate ! Have you invented it ?
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Posted 12/18/2024   7:49 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Therockie to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
i have purchased same stamp in better condition in a facebook group for auctions for 15 GBP
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