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Germany 10pf Orange 83e Or 83j

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Posted 01/21/2025   5:15 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add jb100056 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
I am posting this to get opinions on these two issues. The 83e is 1905-1919 and the 83j is shown as a pre-war printing with bright colors, sharp impressions, high quality paper, and white gum. I could have both, or neither, but I need 2nd opinions.



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Posted 01/21/2025   7:36 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add PostmasterGS to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Sc 83 is red, not orange. Try Sc 119.
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Posted 01/21/2025   8:35 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Germania to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The Michel number is 141, issued in 1920. So all printings are post-war. This stamp comes in a tremendous ranges of shades from almost pure yellow to reddish orange.
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Posted 01/21/2025   11:11 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Cjd to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Cancels that can be dated are additional clues. Not definitive, but useful.
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Posted 01/22/2025   10:02 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add jb100056 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I found the pre-war issues in Scott 1840-1940 Specialized Catalogue. These listing WERE NOT in the Scott Standard Catalogue. If you have access to the Scott Specialized Catalogue, you should find the pre-war issues. I use the 1919 version of the Specialized Catalogue.
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Posted 01/22/2025   11:44 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add jb100056 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Okay, my listings. This is found in scott specialzed, not showing in the scott standard catalogue.


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Posted 01/22/2025   12:00 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add NSK to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
You have two stamps cancelled late in 1920. You have two experts telling you it, neither is a wartime issue, nor a pre-war issue, but a post-war issue (from 1920).

Both point at the same stamp.
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Posted 01/22/2025   2:49 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add jb100056 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
So, you are stating that the Scott Specialized is incorrect even though it clearly states the issues are pre-war? That's pretty bold. I will now attempt to find these in the Michel Specialized.
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Posted 01/22/2025   3:16 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add NSK to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
From posts about Scott listings of European stamps on this forum, I am not impressed with the manner in which Scott lists European stamps.
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Posted 01/22/2025   3:16 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add jb100056 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Did you even check the specialized catalog? Are you guys saying there are no 10pf germania that are orange red?
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Posted 01/22/2025   3:20 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add NSK to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Are you suggesting Germania and PostmasterGS have no idea what they are talking about?

Given the choice between what they write and what Scott lists in whatever catalogue, I will go with what they write.
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Posted 01/22/2025   3:27 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rogdcam to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
This is Scott 83j (certified):



The orange stamp at the beginning of this topic looks like Scott 119, catalog value mint = 25 cents.
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Posted 01/22/2025   3:29 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rogdcam to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Spinks Shreves:

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Posted 01/22/2025   3:32 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add jb100056 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
You guys can be pretty negative. As I asked did you check the specialized catalogs. Scott calls them pre-war and michel shows they were printed in 1915 on page370, but that is in Michel 2017.
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Posted 01/22/2025   3:40 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add NSK to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
You are not looking for a second opinion. You are looking for someone who confirms you have an expensive stamp.
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Posted 01/22/2025   3:43 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rogdcam to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Come on man, the stamp in the first comment isn't even the right color. Not in the same planetary system let alone the same neighborhood. This is silly.
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