Need Help For Identification Of Hungarian Official(?) Stamp

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Hello everyone!

It's my first post here, I'm looking for help with identifying of the stamp on picture.




So far I found out that original stamp (without overprint) was issued in 1934 as pre-printed on page of Hungarian passport(?).

However, I can't find any info about this overprinted stamp.

Any help is much appreciated. Thanks in advance.

Some 1934 stamps were overprinted in 1946 to serve as money.

https://www.collectiondemonnaie.net...nsemble.html

Your stamp does not appear among those shown on the website. The quality of the overprint appears wrong.

Thank you very much for a quick answer!

So, basically this "stamp" might be some kind of forgery, especially if it was used as money?

I can't tell. It is not my area of expertise.

The link shows the same type of overprints on the 1934 fiscals and states these were used as money in 1946.
The link appears to claim to show a full list of overprinted stamps that were used as money.
The overprint on your stamp appears of a poorer quality and more greyish-black type than the deep black on the site.

The combination of those observations makes me question whether your stamp has a genuine overprint.
Maybe someone knows more about these issues.

Fair enough, thanks again!

There were 460,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 pengo to the US dollar in July 1946. Looks genuine to me, compared to the others (shape is complex and right, the blotchy nature of the overprint seems similar to some of those, allowing for the low-resolution scan of that French page). Assuming a weight per stamp of 3 grams, you'd need 27,600,000,000,000,000,000,000 metric tonnes of these stamps to buy one dollar's worth of your favourite pastry. You're going to need a bigger wheelbarrow.

*minor copyed.

If you click on the pictures of the website, you get much better pictures. It is not just the blotchy overprint that is far blotchier than any on the site. it, also, is the very pale overprint that is different from all shown on the site.

The question is whether the numerals would be consistent across values. If so, the "5" on the 5 filler stamp is very different from that in the OP. The "G" in "PENGÖ" does not appear to be constant. So, probably, each value had its own numerals.

Maybe these guys can tell you more: https://hpsgb.com/ .


How many pengö there were to the US Dollar in July 1946 is irrelevant as the numbers on 1 July and 31 July are completely different. The stamp has a pengö and not adopengö overprint.

Yes, the '5' is different in Kalasancije's stamp from both examples on that site. The top of the '5' is not lined up with the top of the '0'. The '0' looks identical to one in the French 30 pengos.

Looking at the exchange rates, it seems to me that a 1946 date for these money stamps is implausible.

Thanks everyone for help with identification!

I had no illusions or expectations about value of this stamp, just wanted help for identification.

So, I won't need a wheelbarrow .

Wouldn't the cancel date tend to point to it not being the 1946 issue? I seem to see Jun 1922 at 11AM... It's a fiscal so I don't have a catalog that would show it.

The date in Hungarian postmarks are normally written in the format 945 JUN 22 11(meaning 11 o'clock 22 June 1945). So there is no year visable in this mark but the most probable year for a 50 pengö face value is 1945