Italian Stamp Question

I have an Italian airmail stamp from 1930-1932, Scott # C17. It has a strange overprint on it which I have not seen before. It looks like a coat of arms with some writing going both horizontally and vertically on all 4 sides of the coat of arms. It is a 2 Lire stamp and at the bottom of the over print I says +20L. I am just trying to identify the stamp for the time being so if anyone might have seen this one before I would appreciate any info you might have on it. Cheers. Marc

OK, thanks Gaff. I am sorry, I did not realize it is OK to post pics here so I will. I didn't delve that deep into the forum yet. I will take some pics of the ones I have that are in question and post them soon. Many thanks again.

Welcome marcbkk.

Using a scanner versus taking a picture gives much better results.
Stamps that have a + sign followed by an amount are called semi-postals. The extra amounts added to the original postage cost is used for fundraising for all kinds of stuff.

Lucky

Cheers Lucky. Attached is a scan of the stamp.

Hi Marc,

Your stamps is from the German occupation of Laibach - Ljubljana - 1944.

Image of the set (The price for the set from the site I've grabbed the image from is $375)



Drew

Cheers for that Drew. I was wondering if you managed to see a Scott number with it on the site you grabbed it from? It seems like the set is somewhat valuable so it would be interesting to know what that one stamp alone that I have is worth. It is the second highest in postal value in the set so it may make up a good portion of the set's value. Just speculating of course. Unfortunately I don't believe I have any others from the set.

I can't find the exact scott numbers but for a similar set with circular text around the crest the numbers are : SCNB 9-14. I dont use scott so have no idea what these numbers mean or where you would find them.

This is the set that matches the above numbers:



Drew

I'm using a Scott's 2006 catalog. Your stamp is NB19 - Yugolslavia-Ljubljana. It's a semi-postal, surcharge for winter relief. It catalogs $6 in the 2006 catalog, but doubt it increased that much more. It's catalogs more postally used - $40. I believe that high value for the set is for a complete postally used set. Most stamps from this area are catalog more used.
Will

marcbkk
2009 Scott's
#NB19 Values 10.00 In Mint, 350.00 legitimately used.
Was issued for winter relief in 1944.
hope this helps
David

I wonder why the site I grabbed the images from is so overpriced. It was not a specialist stamp website but more for WW2 items -- some very interesting - SS daggers / Adolfs Table wear

http://www.wwii-collectibles.com/Me...ry_Code=itst

Drew

Laibach is/was "hot" for a while. Prices on ebay were through the roof. Low CV singles were going for $2 to $5.

It feels like it has cooled again, because it is easier to find some of it again for more-reasonable money.

Thanks all. When I read all the replies on one of my posts on here I am just amazed at the helpfulness and responsiveness of everyone on here. I am such a newbie at all this so any help I can get is great. I live in SE Asia so otherwise I wouldn't have any access to information at all if it were for a community like this.

Anyway, David, thanks for the Scott number on it. The NB19 number you refer to is under which country? I don't think it is under Italy. Maybe you can provide the Scott page number too since you are also using 2009 like myself and that will help.

I am very new at this, green as they come in fact, and you brought up a point that I was wondering about. You mention a much higher value for this stamp if it is legitimately used versus mint. I was wondering about that in general. When I was looking up some stamps in Scott that I have in mint I saw sometimes it looked like the used price was higher. I just figured it was a Scott typo and noted down the used price instead for my valuations figuring the higher price would be the value for the stamp as mint. Is this common that the legitimately used price is higher? And why would that be in general? I generally thought used devalued the stamp and would not increase the value???

Cheers...

Check the end of Yugoslavia for the 1944 Laibach overprints.

A lot of stamps are not common in genuinely used form, and plentiful in mint condition. This can occur for many reasons. Like all things (many things?) it comes down to supply and demand. What is odd (but not uncommon) is a Scott listing that alternates back and forth as you read down the list, higher for mint, then higher for used, and so on, and so on.

Stamp collectors are a loopy bunch.

Collin

There are a huge number of forgeries of the floating around ebay these days. I recommend caution before spending any money on these!

Look at the end of the Yugoslavia listings in Volume 6.

In the 2009 Scott catalog, it is on page 1151 of Volume 6.

k