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Why The Extra Frame Line On German Weimar Republic Era Scott 190 -Type 1 (8-Pf)?

 
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Posted 09/02/2025   12:08 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add Parcelpostguy to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
1. I will update title if Scott number provided within 24 hours.

2.The faint extra frame line at the right any idea why? DT, plate entry issue, or? It seems it should be a constant variety.




And as always, thank you for any input.

Edit for Title Scott #.
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Posted 09/02/2025   1:10 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add plate40 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
That's an interesting one.

They were Typographed, so not really any double transfers, but it does look like a damaged plate of some sort.
Scott 190 -type 1 .
Michel 229P from a flat plate press.

Neither catalog mentions this flaw, which is a little surprising. BUT most catalogs don't and can't list every flaw. It's likely there's a publication in German that describes it.
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Posted 09/02/2025   1:18 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add NSK to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Could it be a burr line?
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Posted 09/02/2025   5:29 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add lithograving to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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Could it be a burr line?


What is a burr line?

@Parcelpostguy

You need an i in Weimar


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Why The Extra Frame Line On German Wemar Republic Era Scott 190 -Type 1 (8-Pf)?
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Posted 09/03/2025   01:17 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add NSK to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Burr lines are found on line-engraved stamps. When the burr engraves a line it can push up the adjoining surface. If the cliché was repaired by cutting away an area, it may have raised the surface adjoining it, creating a line that picks up ink. (With line-engraving, it would cause a small ridge, next to which ink is captured that can be transferred to the paper.
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Posted 09/03/2025   2:59 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Parcelpostguy to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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You need an I in Weimar


Noted and requested. Cannot edit posts after 24 hrs. Need stronger readers.
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Posted 09/09/2025   03:30 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Ellie88 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Still seeking information.
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Posted 09/09/2025   4:40 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add pjr to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
My best theory is that the plate was constructed from multiple clichés, and this particular cliché was not quite level, so that the right edge of the cliché made a faint impression on the paper.

Does the right side of the stamp seem to be more deeply impressed than the left side? You might be able to tell by stroking the stamp gently - with extremely clean fingers!
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Posted 09/11/2025   09:49 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add floortrader to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
"still seeking information "---------"neither catalog mentions this "

Because this is a very common thing with printing press . It is where the printing press machine was STOPPED during a printing run . usually shows up on the last printed sheet . Not a flaw.
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Posted 09/11/2025   12:41 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Ellie88 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I never said it was a flaw, I said I wanted to know what it is or what caused it. Your reply doesn't really explain anything.
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