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Is This A #327 With Double Transfer?

 
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Posted 09/07/2025   6:03 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add ZebraMan to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
I have this #327 with a label that says Double Transfer, and with a 1983 PF certificate that says "decline opinion as to this having a Double Transfer."

What do you think? Is it more likely just a kiss print or smudgy inking?
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Posted 09/07/2025   6:26 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add revcollector to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Difficult to tell from this image, but there is clearly something going on in the lettering at the bottom and the bottom margin. Given that the cert is now 42 years old, and technology has improved, it might be worth trying again.
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Posted 09/07/2025   6:28 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add revcollector to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The extra ink in Mexico might make it just over inking.
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Posted 09/07/2025   9:37 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Parcelpostguy to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
If the PF declined, that means it is like not listed in French. Must dig out my copy but there is too much going on in the lettering for something to have not occurred. Me, from the image I see a DT. But one usually needs a second copy to confirm.

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Edited by Parcelpostguy - 09/07/2025 9:38 pm
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Posted 09/07/2025   9:43 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add revcollector to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
A second example is not always necessary. French helps. We don't know who looked at it. Not everyone is strong on double transfers.
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Posted 09/07/2025   9:54 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add revcollector to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
French does not list one, but that's not a guarantee that there are none.
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Posted 09/07/2025   10:04 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Parcelpostguy to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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The extra ink in Mexico might make it just over inking.


Not that I would agree, I will state over inking does not explain the arc in the nose of the P in POSTAGE nor the weak lines under the right 10.
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Posted 09/07/2025   10:45 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Partime to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Possibly a rusted cliche?
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Given that Siegel has never sold a double anything 327 it seems unlikely that it is anything other than an inking issue.
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Posted 09/08/2025   07:23 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add revcollector to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Over inking might or might not explain the arc in the P, but the parallel lines in the S are not so easily explained.
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Siegel not selling as example proves nothing; even they have not sold everything. I have some double transfers where my example is the only one I have seen so far. Only in one case do I have two examples. I have shown them to other knowledgeable revenue collectors who agree with me. So finding previously unknown examples is possible.
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From the scan I do not think it's a dt kiss or smudge. I,am leaning toward a poor erasure of something. ie a possible foreign transfer. Rust and a scratch cannot be ruled out either. It would be a candidate for a new cert imo.

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OK, thanks all. I wasn't keen on sending it in for an updated certificate if the result would be equally ambivalent, but since a few of you suggest it, I will send it in now and see what new crew there thinks. I'll let you'all know in a couple of months.
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