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Posted 08/06/2010   01:06 am  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add marcbkk to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
I can't seem to find this sheet in Scott or even the stamps individually. I looked under 1972, but nothing. Unfortunately the sheet is badly damaged on the back as the glue got stuck to some black paper. If anyone can help please to identify it would be much appreciated. Cheers. Marc

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Posted 08/06/2010   01:07 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add khj to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
In Scott Volume 3.

Germany B490.
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Posted 08/06/2010   01:16 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add marcbkk to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
You are a machine!
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Posted 08/06/2010   01:20 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add khj to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I really enjoy looking at stamps!

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Posted 08/06/2010   01:22 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add marcbkk to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I am so lucky you do :)
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Posted 08/06/2010   08:08 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add abohart to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Just a little pointer - when you see denomination + another value, automatically think semipostal and look at the back of the country section where the numbers start with B.

-Allen
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Posted 08/06/2010   08:47 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add marcbkk to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Great tip Allen. Many thanks. Marc
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Posted 10/03/2017   3:09 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add iStamp to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Could somebody share image of the XX. OLYMPISCHE SOMMERSPIELE 1972 MÜNCHEN souvenir block that shows the variety with full double print of black color/font?

So far I found only one partial variety of the black color double print located only on the right side of the block and only letters and numbers are double printed there and here are the links

http://www.philmaster-shop.de/artik...r-blockseite

http://www.philmaster-shop.de/artik...e-blockseite
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Posted 10/04/2017   02:34 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add iStamp to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I'm starting to think that the black color double print of this souvenir block I mention doesn't exist at all!

What does the new Michel German spezial catalog say, can someone share a scan? I have info only from my old 1989 netto spezial, so any update is very much welcome. thanks

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Posted 10/04/2017   05:27 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Galeoptix to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
What do you mean??? It doesn't exist???

The gummi cylinder [with the black ink on it] was shaky!









Just a narrow vertical area was involved!
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Posted 10/04/2017   06:04 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add iStamp to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I'm afraid you're not quite right, the black color should be double printed on the entire image size of the block and that's the rare one for which it's highly valued. Your block shows the same space (right side as in the internet links I added in my previous post) double impression or transfer but it's sure not a double print. Double print is a stamp that has passed through the press twice.
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Posted 10/04/2017   06:36 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add stamperix to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
hello iStamp, where do you find a high value for a full double black?
and what is the difference between double impression and "double print"?
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Posted 10/04/2017   06:57 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add iStamp to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hi stamperix I believe I saw it with catalog value of 10k eur in Michel and as you can see the price was blank for this variety (double print of black) at least till 1989.

Double impression is stamp on which design/image or a portion of the design, is doubled. A double impression is not the same as a double printing or double transfer. Vs Double print
stamp that has passed through the press twice.




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Posted 10/04/2017   3:59 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add stamperix to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I don't think that this was the value as in newer versions this double black is just something between 100 and 150 EUR.

I think double impression and double print is the same, but I am not an English native speaker. Different things would be double transfer / re-entry / color shift and so on.
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Posted 10/05/2017   08:38 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add iStamp to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
That's why I asked if somebody can post a scan of the latest Michel German specialized catalog showing this souvenir block from 1972.

http://www.usstamps.org/resources/glossary/

Double impression: a stamp on which the design, or a portion of the design, is doubled. This occurs when a sheet slips against an offset blanket, or when the press is stopped, relaxing the tension on the web. Double impressions are freaks. A double impression is not the same as a double printing or double transfer.

Double transfer: a plate variety in which a portion of the design is doubled, that is, it appears twice. A double transfer occurs on engraved stamps when a design is " rocked" into a plate from a transfer roll in such a way that the rocked images are out of alignment. Thus, if the siderographer is not careful, the rocking in of the design will cause a part of the design to appear more than once. Sometimes a double transfer on a plate is discovered and is " burnished" out. But if this process is not totally successful, some amount of doubling of the design may remain. All sheets printed from a plate with a double transfer will show the double transfer. Thus, the double transfer will be a constant variety.

Double print: a stamp that has passed through the press twice.
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Posted 10/05/2017   09:15 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add PostmasterGS to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Here's the latest Michel catalog entry:

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