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1 Cent Ben Franklin - Anything Special

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Posted 12/22/2025   6:22 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add ADK_Life to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Hello all - new to the forum and looking for some help with some old Ben Frankin's. I have a few singles, with a 1911 cancel stamp and this double.

Also, 300K file size - are we in the 80's?

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Posted 12/22/2025   6:26 pm  Show Profile Check GeoffHa's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add GeoffHa to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I'm usually in the 1960s, but others may be more advanced in time.
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Posted 12/22/2025   6:31 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add revcollector to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
It's the bottom pair of a booklet pane. Exactly which stamps they are depends on the watermark. You might be able to use the date of the cancel if you have it to tell which stamps they are.
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Posted 12/22/2025   6:58 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Parcelpostguy to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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Also, 300K file size - are we in the 80's?


Wow, ADK_Life, first post and you blast the FREE forum? Bobby131313 will not be happy. But of course you can donate or become a supporter and perhaps Bobby131313 will be able to afford more server space.



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Posted 12/22/2025   9:13 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add ADK_Life to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks, I'll do some digging.
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Posted 12/23/2025   05:40 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add drkohler to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
It's the bottom pair of a booklet pane.
I'd say I can see perf holes on the bottom right edge of the right stamp (and some blind perfs further up). With some imagination, blind perfs at bottom left of the left stamp?
It looks like a pair of stamps with mostly blind perfs vertically.
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Posted 12/23/2025   07:12 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add revcollector to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Optical illusion. Booklet pair.
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Posted 12/23/2025   11:09 am  Show Profile Check 3193zd's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add 3193zd to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
yes I agree a booklet pair nothing special.
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Posted 12/23/2025   4:25 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add drkohler to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Difficult to determine, really.
First thing is soak the stamps off the backing paper
Second thing is do not use a low-grade cell phone with really bad lens distortion, use a scanner.
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Posted 12/23/2025   7:20 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add John Becker to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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First thing is soak the stamps off the backing paper


The LAST thing to do is to soak the stamps.

The first step is to provide a scan of the entire item so that we may see the cancel's date, etc.

The pair will be from a booklet pane of 331 (eku 12/1908) or 374 (eku 2/28/1911), which means the exact details of the 1911 date are potentially important. And then we can move forward together.

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Posted 12/23/2025   8:00 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add drkohler to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
There is a limit to "Always keep a stamp on its cover". These stamps are in poor condition and require medical care due to the many rust/fungus spots on almost every side. The worst thing that can happen if you put this into an album and the infection will spread.
If you dont like the word "soak", use "lift from the cover". If the cancel date is from early 1911 to around 1914 or so, you'd have to lift the pair to see the watermark.
So: Lift/soak the stamp pair from the cover, clean it, determine the watermark and put it back onto the cover where it was. Pairs from 331a or 374a (IF it really is a booklet bottom pair) are not that scarce anyways.
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Posted 12/23/2025   8:04 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Parcelpostguy to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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First thing is soak the stamps off the backing paper


What you call "backing paper" other may call and envelope or postcard. Drkohler, you comments are usually well aimed arrows, but here you missed the target, hay bale, back wall and if not for gravity, the ground.

I must agree with John Becker here.
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Posted 12/23/2025   8:19 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add John Becker to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
drkohler,
Has your account been hacked?
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Posted 12/23/2025   8:56 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add ADK_Life to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Here is some background on these stamps. While working on a house back in the 90's, I found a bunch (12) of old post cards in the ceiling of a kitchen. That is why they look so rough. A few had these stamps on them, a number of them fell off (I need to find those). The two together are on an envelope. The single stamp is also post marked from 1911 (May).





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Posted 12/23/2025   9:02 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Parcelpostguy to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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drkohler,
Has your account been hacked?


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Posted 12/23/2025   9:07 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add drkohler to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The picture is a little better (while still oddly distorted) and curiously the "perf hole appearances" in the first picture are gone.
So it seems to be a bottom pair from a booklet. Unfortunately it isn't clear if it is a late use from a 331a pane (somebody using up old stamps) or from a 374a pane (using the recently issued stamps).
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