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Posted 08/15/2010   06:49 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

Thanks for the info Nigel.
Now the full set:

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Posted 08/15/2010   09:01 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add marcbkk to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Interesting history about those Ukraine ones. Kind of reminds me of those early Bangladesh ones I have which were omitted from Scott as well when the government decided they also weren't up to snuff for some reason.

Thanks for the additional info Kim on the Wurttemberg stamp. I'll go back and track it down and yes, I am using Scott 2009. Cheers. Marc
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Posted 08/15/2010   09:34 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add marcbkk to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
By the way Rod, some of those are very pretty. A shame the government didn't accept them for postal usage.
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Posted 08/15/2010   09:37 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Indeed Marc, a very nicely presented set,
a lot of work went into them.
(Thematics note : windmills on stamps :)
I can send you a full set (I think) if you care to have them.

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Posted 08/15/2010   09:49 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add marcbkk to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you Rodney. Very kind of you to offer. Seeing them on the screen gives me good pleasure already. As you probably know, I am eventually planning to downsize my collection at this stage :)
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Posted 08/15/2010   10:14 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add nigelc to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

Quote:
By the way Rod, some of those are very pretty. A shame the government didn't accept them for postal usage.


Hi Marc,

I agree - some are quite striking designs.

I suspect that the problem wasn't with the designs but that there was no point in issuing them. I don't think the Ukrainian National Republic existed much beyond some surviving military units on Polish controlled territory.

There are some fascinating maps on Wikipedia showing the ebb and flow of fortunes of Ukraine during the war. For much of the time it was a triangular war between the Red Army, Denikin's White Army and Ukraine (which had Polish support for much of 1920).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ukrain...e's_Republic

The maps also show locations of quite a few other stamp issuing territories: the Don and Kuban Cossacks, Western Ukraine, Wrangel's Army in the Crimea etc.
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Posted 08/15/2010   10:23 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add marcbkk to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks for the bit of history Nigel. I am starting to realize to be a well versed stamp collector you have to be a bit of a war historian as well to understand when, why, and how certain stamps were issued and to imagine the scenery at the time of their issue in general. I was never very good with history, but it makes me wonder how the new generation will be able to embrace stamp collecting from the early 1900's for example with having very few references anymore to historical times in present day. Especially since the new generation is becoming less involved in history in general. It seems to me the later aged stamp collectors of present times are becoming a shrinking breed. Just a bit of a philisophical observation.
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Posted 08/16/2010   06:00 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rohumpy to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
marcbkk--don't forget geography. I would wager that WW stamp collectors know a fair amount of geography. It is a must to know where places are. And of course the history you mention.
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Posted 08/19/2010   08:50 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add marcbkk to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Got a few more here I am a bit confused on :)

The one on the left is Greek, but I can't find anything on the overprint in Scott.

The middle one I can't make out at all.

The one on the right is German, but I can't find it in Scott.

Scott numbers for any of these? Cheers...

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Posted 08/19/2010   09:13 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Greece, Czechoslovakia, and Bavaria Marc.

Gibbons
greece SG0489 (1935) TD020 50l on 40l monarchy [0m2] blue opt.jpg
czech SG0227 (1920) T0013 100h agriculture [0m15] red .jpg
bavaria SG0122 (1876) T008 05pf arms [0m17] green.JPG
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Posted 08/21/2010   03:11 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add marcbkk to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks Rod.

I found the Czech one in Scott now, it is #76
I found the Bavaria one too in Scott, #39

I am still not so good with looking things up in Gibbons and couldn't find that Greece one still in either Gibbons or Scott. Thanks though.
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Posted 08/21/2010   05:25 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Donna Merkle to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
This was one of those threads that are definitely a keeper. A lot of great information. It does bring a question to mind though. What are the deciding factors that would have Scott delete a stamp from the catalog or change the numbers?

Donna
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Posted 08/21/2010   05:46 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add khj to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
In the Scott catalog, it is Greece #383.
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Posted 08/21/2010   05:49 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

That's interesting khj, a full hundred stamps difference
between scott and gibbons.

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Posted 08/21/2010   06:45 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add marcbkk to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks so much Kim. That is it. Its funny I browsed over that page and even those 2 stamps (D3 Type issues) and for some reason I didn't think it was the one. At closer inspection in Scott now I realize you are right. Its good to know at least I was warm :)

Thanks again!
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