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Posted 08/28/2010   12:41 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add nutmeg to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Please help identify this stamp. And what kind of cancel is this, dated 1944? Who is the guy on the stamp? Used value? Thanks.
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Posted 08/28/2010   1:29 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Battlestamps to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Scott 252 or 252a if it has thinner numerals and letters. Both are minimal value stamps. The man is Adimral M.A. de Ruyter. The postmark is probably part of a slogan machine cancel.


....and from Netherlands
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Posted 08/28/2010   2:08 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add nutmeg to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you very much Battlestamps.
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Posted 08/28/2010   2:30 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add philb to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The Scott catalog is so vague on non U.S. stamps scott 253 to 261 honored Hollands Sea Heroes..of course if you were English or Spanish you would call them PIRATES !!
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Posted 08/28/2010   2:34 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add philb to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Sorry, typo..scott 252 to 261..Scott lists 261 separately..why because its engraved ? In the dutch catalog they are listed as one set !
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Posted 08/28/2010   11:51 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add nutmeg to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
So who was this guy? I did a search for Admiral de Ruyter but it turned up nothing. He looks like he could be a pirate or at least a privateer.
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Posted 08/29/2010   01:50 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add 22crows to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
"Michiel Adriaenszoon de Ruyter (24 March 1607 – 29 April 1676) is the most famous and one of the most skilled admirals in Dutch history. De Ruyter is most famous for his role in the Anglo-Dutch Wars of the 17th century. He fought the English and French in these wars and scored several major victories, the best known probably being the Raid on the Medway."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michiel_de_Ruyter
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Posted 08/29/2010   02:03 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
A great read!
I was most pleased to bump into the reference to Saint Eustatious,
who figures in my story on sugar.
The Dutch Island possessions Curacao and Saint Eustacious, that lump of
moss covered rock, valued not for what they produced, but for their use as
commercial entrepots.

The Dutch certainly knew how to make money.
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Posted 08/29/2010   07:48 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add nutmeg to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
22crows: Thanks for the information.
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Posted 08/29/2010   08:52 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add philb to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
here he is !

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Posted 08/29/2010   2:07 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add nutmeg to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Wow that's neat philb.
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Posted 08/29/2010   2:50 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add nigelc to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Nice cover philb! I guess it shows the arms of the seven Dutch provinces that de Ruyter's ship, De Zeven Provinciën, was named after.
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Posted 08/29/2010   5:34 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Prince Afa to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Wow. This place kills me.

Every stamp has a story!
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Posted 08/29/2010   6:51 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add philb to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thank You for praise from my peers...my dutch cover collection is probably the best material I have! Heres another guy who was around at the same time..Jan Van Riebeeck !

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Posted 08/29/2010   11:07 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add 22crows to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Jan van Riebeeck's ship "Dromedaris" has caused many headaches for collectors of South African stamps.

The simplified version:

http://www.rjbw.net/OneP.html

There's a much more detailed analysis on the Stampboards site.
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Posted 08/29/2010   11:23 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add philb to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
22crows...i never realized the ship on those stamps !!
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