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Posted 01/22/2011   10:54 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add jhlovell to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Here is a real stumper for me. I think I might even put it down as a Cinderella. It appears Italian, or maybe San Marino as I can make out the word Marino on the inside belt, but the language appears French (which may not be unusual for San Marino). The paper is almost thinner than rice paper and I have never been able to find any reference to this thing. It is almost the king of my "what the heck is this" stamp book. Can anyone help?



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Posted 01/22/2011   11:39 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Cjd to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Is there any chance that the center is applied separately to the larger piece? Or is it printed in two colors?
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Posted 01/22/2011   11:43 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add jhlovell to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Nope, one piece really really thin stamp and yes bicolored.
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Posted 01/22/2011   11:53 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Cjd to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
This listing was in a French mail sale last year. The denomination is Euros...

Quote:
ITALIE. Porte-timbre d'Emilio NERI – Négociant en TP à Florence. Neuf. Sans charnière. TTB. 10,00


If there is anything there that helps you, or someone else, good luck.

New to me.
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Posted 01/23/2011   04:43 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Is it possible to have a clearer scanned image?
we need more clues
From what we have, we can see the three towers of Monte Titano
(Mount Titan's three fortresses) so you are probably
correct in your assumption that it is from San Marino,
as this would appear as its Coat of Arms.

The next we have "negotient"
A negotient was an intermediary trader in the promotion
of bulk wines.
San Marino has a major agricultural history in Winemaking.

It looks like it maybe a parcel stamp for the relaying of
wine produce from San Marino to Florence.
But Its all guesswork
I cannot locate any "Emilio Neri" the main player in the label.

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Posted 01/23/2011   05:08 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add nigelc to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
It looks as though it's an advertising label for a stamp dealer, Emilio Neri of Florence.

The picture in the middle appears to be a reproduction of San Marino SG 3, 3a or 20.

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Posted 01/23/2011   05:23 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
By Jove!
I have been duped
Had his own canceller as well! Rotter.

Well done Nigel.
Do we have any info on the web, for him as a dealer?






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Posted 01/23/2011   10:48 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add tartamimmi to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
this is a Cinderella!
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Posted 01/23/2011   10:59 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply


That's it? no explanation, source?
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Posted 01/23/2011   11:29 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add nigelc to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

The stamp says: Emilio Neri / Stamps for collecting / Florence.

The quote says: Porte-timbre of Emilio Neri - Stamp Dealer in Florence.

A porte-timbre is usually an advertising label with a place for a stamp to be applied in the middle. They were all the rage in France at the start of the last century. Here's an interesting article I found just now:

http://www.gibbonsstampmonthly.com/...myfrance.pdf

This label seems to be acting much the same as an advertisement although apparently it only has a picture of the San Marino stamp rather than than one stuck on.
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Posted 01/23/2011   11:29 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add nigelc to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
(deleted duplicate post)

It's a pity we can't delete a posting even if only for a minute or two after posting it.
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Posted 01/23/2011   11:41 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Cjd to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I'm fluent in menu French, and it just about stops there. I was thinking about that auction listing, and didn't identify the "TP" as stamps. Like Rod, I was thinking about negociant in the wine context. The fact that "Florence" wasn't in Italian was also disturbing.

nigel, do you see a garbage can icon on the far right of the date line of your post? I think that deletes the post.
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Posted 01/23/2011   11:46 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add jhlovell to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
all good ideas, sounds like we have a stamp dealer advertisement but I will try and make a cleaner scan. the arms of san marino in the scan on the right that you made Rod looks like the center portion of the stamp. will send a better scan in a minute. thanks to all.I hope this image is a little better

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Edited by jhlovell - 01/23/2011 11:57 am
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Posted 01/23/2011   11:50 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add nigelc to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks Collin! That worked.
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Posted 01/23/2011   12:18 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add jhlovell to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
well I think thats it, I will put it in the "wish I were a stamp department" and move on. thanks everyone for your input
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Posted 01/23/2011   1:38 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add bfranton to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Here's a little trick... I copied your last scan into Adobe and then let the file "auto color correct." While it may not be "correct" I found the extra definition makes it easier to look at.

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