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Does This 93's Cancel Look Green To You?

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Posted 10/13/2010   09:01 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add stampgal to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Short answer - yes, it looks green.
Disclaimer - I know nothing, and can the inks become faded/washed out to a green colour?
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Posted 10/13/2010   11:31 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add stampvirgin to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
okay so I just bought this...
Now, I can take the critique...
opinions wanted.. purchase price was 16.50
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Posted 10/13/2010   12:27 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add fredcdobbs to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

Quote:
Now, I can take the critique...
opinions wanted.. purchase price was 16.50


I have done worse As far as it being green, yep look's green to me, I don't know how it could be disputed, unless there is a standard green ink formula to compare it to. No matter what, be it green ,blue, black or red, this would look sweet in a cancel collection of 19th century stamps.
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Posted 10/13/2010   12:29 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add stampvirgin to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
cool, I am glad you agree, Scott 2008 specialized adds +200 to the value for green cancel.
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Posted 10/13/2010   12:47 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add warrehouse to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Agree that this cancel appears to be green!
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Posted 10/13/2010   1:01 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add wt1 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
As long as we're on the subject of catalog premiums for special cancels (or color of cancels), let me ask a question:

How does one evaluate the surplus value of a stamp with a special cancel on a stamp that would be below Scott's VF condition value? In this case, the perfs are cutting into the design, so it would be graded below Scott's VF condition (probably VG or VG/F), but does the premium for the cancel also fall in direct correlation with the condition of the stamp?

(BTW, the cancel looks green to me, too.)
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Posted 10/13/2010   1:12 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add stampvirgin to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
wt1, good question..
for this series of stamps this stamp according to everything I have read is in the "Fine" category pre 1870.
Current scott values this at $25.00, the specialized catalog makes no distinction on grade.. maybe it is implied that the plus only goes with the VF?
I don't know, I don't think it would, I think the cancel would be the same regardless of the condition.
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Posted 10/13/2010   8:29 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add billw2 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
If I may.. for $16 ya can't get hurt :)

SCV is always for VF stamps, even on classics. That one looks to me like a G/VG, of course, Black Jacks are notorious for lousy centering. It's tough to say if it's a green cancel or not, but a lot of inks of the era were famous for changing color (I collect 24c '61s, if I had a dollar for every "steel blue" that wasn't really a SB...). If I had to guess I would think that it's an oxidised blue cancel, it just looks a tad off to me. Also, the green inks used for cancellations of this era tend to be a little darker in hue.
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Posted 10/13/2010   8:38 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add stampvirgin to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
bill.. once I get it in hand, I can better tell the color...
I'll post pics then.
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Posted 10/14/2010   07:01 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add stampgal to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Its a nice cancel, whatever colour it turns out to be!
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Posted 10/16/2010   11:21 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add mark44004 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
yes, it looks green. Is that a good thing?
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Posted 10/17/2010   01:28 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add billw2 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Mark,

Genuine green cancels from the 1861 period are scarce and bring substantial premiums.
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Posted 10/17/2010   02:09 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply



Cancellation colours noted here

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Posted 10/17/2010   08:48 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add stampvirgin to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I got the stamp,,, it is a blue cancel... +2.00 to the CV..
It is still nice and looks great in my collection.
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Posted 10/17/2010   08:50 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Andy1847 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Honestly I believe the cancel is bluish-green here are a couple of pics of stamps from that time period that have green cancels so you can compare.



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