Old Or Silk Paper?

I've been through previous threads that discussed silk paper on the first issue of revenues and have looked at the examples on the Revenue-Collector website.

I think I know just enough now to be dangerous and would like a little help from the SCF Revenuers.

These images are from the back of an R24 from a lot of revenue stamps on album pages and documents that I received today.

It looks to me that this might be silk paper but I'd like to hear some expert opinions.

I am not an expert by any means, I am sure Revstampman will clarify, but it certainly looks silk.

tomiseksj
Not an Expert
Quote from the U.S. Specialised catalog.
" One type has one or more threads of silk embedded in the substance of the paper, extending across the stamp. In the catalogues, this type of paper usually is designated as "with silk threads."
The other type, used to print many U.S. revenue stamps, has short silk fibres strewn over it and impressed into it during manufacture. This is simply called "silk paper.""
David -DJD

Yes, you have it right, they are "Silk".

Revstampman, that makes me very happy because I think it means this R36 is also silk.

Steve

R36d Sweet! I think I'm actually missing that one. How-ed that happen? I might need to crack open my album for the 1st time in 2 months! I thought I had all the blues covered. But, somehow it's on my list.

How about a pic of the face?

Seeing as how I owe my new found love of revenues, in part, to you Revstampman, I think I can oblige.

I won a job lot with 30 different revenues on album pages and another 23 (9 different Scott numbers) on six documents.

I had such a good time trying to look into the background of that Vicksburg cover that wt1 posted a few days ago that when I saw the documents in the lot I had to bid on it.

I still have seven more first issue revenues to check for paper type -- I'll be even happier if one or two of those turn out to be silk!

Steve

sweet....

Super centering! Nice combo. Steel Die/Pen Cancel. If it wasn't for that pulled bottom left perf and small tear on the "T" of Cents. You could have added 10-15% for centering and Cancel. If it is not a tear I would say Full Cat. Value, even with the pulled perf. Thanks to the cancel. A VERY nice find!

I'm very pleased with the entire lot--I think I got a pretty good deal for $15.06.

Even though a few of the stamps have small tears or minor perf issues, their overall appearance is quite nice.

I think this R44 is also a Silk but what interests me more is the embossed FEB 2 cancellation. Can anyone tell me something about it?

Yes, Also a silk! Your on a roll! The embossed cancel most likely came from a Stock Certificate. Or some other Corporate document. In this case it doesn't add anything to the stamp.

The most interesting thing about the silk paper is how the silk paper was made. While the paper was still wet someone quite literally tossed a handful of silk fibers onto the sheet of paper as it was being made! As opposed to the Experimental Silk Paper where it was "Sprinkled" onto the paper often leaving large areas without any fibers at all

Getting closer thank to you.
David -DJD

Hello,

After searching the net I found this topic and got curious if my RS24 revenue stamp is old paper or silk.

Attached is the front image scanned in at 300dpi 18% grey.

Next images are several zoomed-in sections. I can see some small fibers but I'm really not sure. two square patch sections on each end of the stamp, they almost look like hinges but also look like there are imbedded into the paper. I don't own a microscope to check finer detail. Any help from the experts would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,
Ken

This thread is old, so it might not matter much, but the only possible silk thread in the first stamp is the short horizontal thread near the bottom. The diagonal threads are not silk. That stamp needs a bath. The second stamp is not a silk paer, and the third stamp was used on Feb 2, 1868 and cannot be silk, it was not yet issued. The blue fibers on that stamp are simply leftovers from the papermaking process.
The Demas Barnes stamp appears to be old paper.

This thread predates my reference page on the 1st issue silk papers:

http://www.revenue-collector.com/1s...papers.shtml

Revcollector, thank you for the information. I have this one stamp and several others to review in my collection. I just purchased a small collection from an estate sale recently and I'm starting my inventory process, just wanted to make sure I didn't miss mark it.

Thanks again,
Ken