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Posted 12/19/2010   3:08 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add philb to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
i picked up a cool little book with stamps titled Maps in Minature by Walter Klinefelter...its got some uncommon map stamps but I can not break up the book..anyway according to the book,,this Panama 1887 stamp is the FIRST MAP STAMP !!

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Posted 12/19/2010   3:30 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add kirks to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Great thread, Phil:

I think someone else also posted this stamp with a question about an accent mark in the PANAMA overprint -- but I don't see that thread now.

Nice stamps, but I'd rather hear more about the book

Maybe you will show us some more maps. Where does the Canada XMAS 1898 enter the list?

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Posted 12/19/2010   3:45 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Bujutsu to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I think that the 1898 Canada map stamp comes in as the first Christmas Stamp (?)

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Posted 12/19/2010   3:45 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Bujutsu to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I think that the 1898 Canada map stamp comes in as the first Christmas Stamp (?)

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Posted 12/19/2010   4:04 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add philb to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Ok, a request from a fellow collector is a command to me...its almost game time..lets see if I can get this guy under 100 kb by then..the books about 4x6 inches by date the Canadian Christmas stamp comes in second !

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Posted 12/19/2010   4:12 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add stamporator to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
As the Canada Map Stamp (the first Christmas Stamp) was mentioned, here is a scan of the Scott 86a - imperforated vertical pair (black, blue and carmine).

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Posted 12/19/2010   4:22 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add nigelc to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Here's the original Panama map design from 1887:

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Posted 12/19/2010   7:36 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add philb to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
i don't get it..the little book was published in 1936....i don't know where the writer got the idea that the overprinted 2 cent rose stamp was from 1887 ? I found this stamp with Columbia on it in the Panama section..the one in the book appears to be an overprinted version of a 1892 stamp issued in 1904 !

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Posted 12/19/2010   7:49 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add mcgeesorg to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
There is a fantastic story about the 1898 Canada Christmas stamp -- involves Victoria, Prince Albert, the postmaster general of Canada, and some political tensions? I think? The full story is in wonderfully recounted in Kenneth A. Wood's excellent 3-volume This Is Philately. I don't have them in front of me, but I'll be sure to type it out if I run across it.

Are links permitted/appropriate for books? The three volumes appear to have ISBNs of 0934466025, 0934466033, and 0934466041, and the three volumes together as 093446605X; searches on your favorite book sites, meta-search sites, or Google could help you find them.
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Posted 12/19/2010   9:13 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add BeeSee to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Here is the thread to my accent variety - I still have to post some more images:

https://goscf.com/t/11460

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Posted 12/20/2010   07:10 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add 22crows to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Liberia issued a stamp showing a map in 1894, earlier than the Canadian stamp, but later than the the Colombian Department of Panama map stamps.

http://www.danstopicals.com/triangle.htm
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Posted 12/20/2010   08:43 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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i don't get it..the little book was published in 1936....i don't know where the writer got the idea that the overprinted 2 cent rose stamp was from 1887 ?



I agree, my database shows 1892

Do we all agree then, that 1892 was the first map stamp?



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Posted 12/20/2010   09:07 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add 22crows to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
NO! The first map stamp (as shown above by Nigel) was issued in 1887 by Colombia for its Department of Panama (SG5).
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Posted 12/20/2010   09:47 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add kirks to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Phil & Others:

I found a used copy of Klinefelter's book on Amazon for $15, was very tempted to purchase it, but decided to pass. In fact there are several books by Klinefelter -- all about maps on stamps.

While Googling, I also found this PDF file at the National Postal Museum. Apparently, Klinefelter researched and produced a one-of-a-kind album for Allen Lee, who assembled a multi-volume thematic collection.

N.B. This is a link to a PDF; clicking will open in your browser; to save a copy, right-click then Save File/Link As...
http://postalmuseum.si.edu/findingg...ng_Guide.pdf

The first part of the PDF describes the Lee collection, followed by several pages summarizing the Klinefelter book and listing hundreds of early maps on stamps.

Highly Recommended !

Thanks Phil for opening this topic,
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Posted 12/20/2010   10:43 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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NO! The first map stamp (as shown above by Nigel)


I stand corrected. Thanks.

Great link Kirk.
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Posted 11/28/2011   9:46 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add jamesw to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Well, I am the first to admit when I'm wrong. Several times on this site I've touted our Canadian 1898 as the first map stamp, but I am humbled by the Columbian/Panama.
I refuse, however, to accept the Liberian. It's just a little globe. Hardly even worth mentioning.
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