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Jersey City, NJ (247) Idealite

 
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Posted 01/12/2011   1:26 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add frankie to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
I just thought I'd share this one with you. How ofter do you come across printed dated cancels that are not abbreviated? Are these common?

I just ordered the catalog for printed dated predates. I never realized that there is so much variety besides the common MW and SRC!

Please excuse the washed out scan. My scanner is going kaput and am need of a new one!

Frankie

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Posted 01/12/2011   2:08 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add wt1 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Interesting precancel. I have a number of them, too, but never much looked at whether or not they are only initials or if they contain a full company name on them (I'll have to give them another look.)

As I understand it, the post office requirement for dated precancels merely required that the company affix their name (initials) and month/year to the stamp, so I suppose the number of rubber stamps made for the purpose could be quite large.

Back to Idealite, did you know they were a manufacturer of lamp shades? Here's a picture of the company in Jersey City from the 1920's or 1930's...(I love that Railway Express truck!):

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Edited by wt1 - 01/12/2011 2:09 pm
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Posted 01/12/2011   7:32 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

Frankie, try resetting "factory settings"
that may have you up and scanning again....

Great pic wt1 !, like the chute on the top window sill
for loading the trucks from first floor.
Has one appreciating bitumen roads as well.
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Posted 01/12/2011   10:17 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add warrehouse to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
This is a relatively rare type of Handstamp Dated Control.
It is one of the few that spellout the companies entire name.
It is one of the few that utilize 3 different devices to complete the entire precancel.
First the precancel type 247, then the company stamp, then a date stamper.
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Posted 01/12/2011   11:06 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add wt1 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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then the company stamp, then a date stamper


Isn't the "company stamp" and the "date stamper" one in the same device? It appears to me that they (Idealite) may have simply made a rubber stamp that incorporated both the name and date, as the typeface looks to be the same...or is there some other reason to think that separate stamps were used?

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Posted 01/12/2011   11:39 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add warrehouse to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Not in this case. The date stamper is inverted in relationship to the company name the same device would have been read the same as the company.

The "Handstamp Dated Control Handbook & Checklist" by Rolston Lyon, 1940, indicates the third device occurs and is noted by using an "S" = "Separate dater used".
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Posted 01/13/2011   02:04 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add frankie to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Warrehouse: JUN 1940 is not inverted in relation to the company name on my example. I don't understand your statement that it is. Or am I misinterpreting your message.

Frankie
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Posted 02/11/2011   7:41 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add wt1 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
While this has nothing to do with a dated precancel, it does relate to a Jersey City Precancel Type 247, so I thought I'd post it here.

The failed printing seems to indicate Jersey "Cit" (at least that's what it looks like). While I probably just chalk this up to some debris in the printing process, it certainly makes for an interesting looking stamp:

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Posted 02/11/2011   8:29 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add frankie to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Looks like not all of the stamp got printed. Note that the double lines along with the "Y" in CITY also faded out.

Frankie
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Edited by frankie - 02/11/2011 8:30 pm
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