Colours, Shades, And Nomenclature

Just read in another thread (Newfoundland 1897 - colour problem) a discussion about the colours described in a catalogue as compared to what appears on the ground. This led back to a colour chart I stumbled upon in a used bookstore several years back. It was produced by Stanley Gibbons. When? I don't know but prices might indicate pre WWII as postage abroad was 5d to mail it. As shown, there are 100 "stamps" affixed, each with a different shade identified. Wonderfully useful, even if I am converting the colour names to Scott nomenclature.

Anyone know if there is a modern equivalent being produced?

I really like it. would it be possible to ask you to rescan the double page to single so it had more detail? Thanks.

There was a recent thread about color chips. Hope it helps. You can use the search feature for what I'm certain are many other discussions.
https://goscf.com/t/10294

Took a while to fiddle about with scans and I am not really happy with the results. By the time I reduce it to 90, the clarity leaves a lot to be desired. The object is a folded card, 8 sides, each one 8 1/2 x 5 1/2. If you would like full scans, I can email that folder to you.

Backroads,
You were lucky to find such an item in a book shop.
Today, if it were possible to find one complete, it would cost way over $100 ! A few of the colour labels appear on ebay from time to time at about $20 for 10. Great find.
This item has been replaced long ago by a colour Key which opens up like a fan. Most useful for SG catalogue users.

However, like the labels, it cannot be 'converted' to Scott colours.
So your efforts will be [mostly] in vain and a waste of philatelic time. What is Red in the UK, for example, may not be red in the USA. And other catalogues have another opinion still.
In the UK, even 'official' Royal Mail colours for their products, some even inscribed onto sheets margins, are not listed as such in Gibbons catalogues. So you see, even in the same country they can't agree

Londonbus1

backroads,
Nice find, amazing.

To show a bigger image (but at the same time also losing a bit of clarity) scan at 75 - 100 ppi / dpi resolution. This will give you a bigger picture measured side to side but the file size will be smaller as it doesn't have the depth of pixels of a higher resolution scan.

A scanner is usually set to default at 200 pixel per inch for a scanning resolution. You will have to go looking at menus and such to find where you can change to a lower (or higher) number, if it exists with your scanner.

I use the SG Colour Key Fan. While it is true that they don't translate to the colours of the Scott's catalogue but it still is helpful. As a colour blind person it helps me out a lot when no one is around to ask.

Top ones were 75 dpi, cropped, and reduced slightly to bring them down to regulation. Bottom set was 200 dpi, cropped and reduced drastically. Both give the fuzzy image for something that size.
And thanks for the info, Londonbus. Fifty cents about 10-12 years back and something I had just been using and never bothered researching. Should really get to that bookshelf as its full of old catalogues and the like that I have never bothered looking up.

Here is my 1973 version of the Gibbon's Colour Guide.

BeeSee -- remarkable good condition.

I meant the color chart -- not you personally

SCF always good for a Sunday morning chortle.





Yes please!

My favourite colour confusion is 'Indian red,' a term Gibbons uses in its China catalogue a few times. Apparently, this is a chestnut colour, not a red at all.

What do your respective SG colour charts give for 'Inidan red,' gentlemen?

Jim I have the same SG colour chart as BC except mine is dated 1978.

There is no Indian red listed here though.

It is MNH.

I meant the colour chart KirkS.

This is the Scott Indian Red (28A)

Oh! That was me in the quote box. Res, Rod, I shall send the folder to you. Let me know an email address as I can't upload (I don't think) to community contact.

JimJam - Here is the relevant scan for Indian Red.

One More thought - are these colours in this chart at all fugitive? Granted that it is stored away from direct light etc. but ??? And there is some tropical staining.