ID For Mass. L-Type Precancels

Found a couple of other L-type precancels I have not been able to identify.

1. South Weymouth, Mass.: Curiously, this location only issued L-Type precancels, so it has to be either an L-1R; L-2E; L-3E or L-4R.



2. Boston (Roxbury Crossing), Mass. dated June 1901. I have a couple of these, but this is the only example with three bars and dated June 1901, so I am at a loss to properly ID its type:



3. Springfield, Mass.:



Any help will be appreciated. Thanks.

You have South Weymouth L-3 E (you can tell by the wider spacing between the lines and the top (or bottom) of the lettering); Roxbury Crossing is L-1 E; Springfield is L-3 E.

Frankie

The Roxbury Crossing in the SW corner of Boston. The L-1E also is dated 6-01, 7-01, 8-01,
9-01, 10-01, 11-01, 12-01, 3-02, 4-02, & 5-02

This brings up a small but interesting dilemma.
The example used to show the L-1E with the 1-02 date used in PSS Cat., Hoover ('40) & Rotem ('28) is not listed in as a date used in the aforementioned catalogues, also not listed in Bunnell (2006).

So if it exists, why has it been overlooked for over almost 120 years?

The latest 7th ed of the PSS T&T shows a 6-01 date, older catalogs did show the 1-02 date. This was either a fake or fantasy. 1-02 apparently does not exist - it is NOT listed in the new, draft, classics catalog.

Thanks to all of you for this information. I have the Boston (Roxbury Crossing) L-1E precancel in both the 06-01 (previously scanned) and 09-01 (inverted) dated precancel. I also have an L-2E (no date) as well.

I gather these early dateds are pretty common.

(By the way, the only other dateds I have seen from that time period would be from Chicago, Illinois for which I have 4-1, 6-1, 7-1, 10-1 and 3-2 examples. Are these of any particular note?)

Chasa, So it took over a century to stop using a fake precancel to show as an example of a real precancel!

Wt1, The Classic Dated issues like the one you showed for Roxbury Crossing is one of a few similar issues:

Chicago, IL 3/01-4/02
Attica, IN 12/01-3/02
Lexington, KY 11/01
Boston, MA 6/01-4/02
" " Station A 11/01-4/02
" " East Cambridge, MA 12/01-4/02
" " Roxbury Crossing, 6/01-4/02
Grand Rapids, MI, 12/01-3/02
Minneapolis, MN, 12/01-9/02
Norfolk, NE 10/02
Leroy, NY, 11/01-12/01
Lockport, NY, 11/01-1/02
New York Station H aka Grand Central Station, 11/01-5/02
Springfield, OH, 11/01-2/02
Chattanooga, St. Elmo Station,TN, 11/01-12/02
Racine,WI, 10/01-8/02
Edella, PA 4/03
Harrisburg, PA 11/01-10/02,
Binghamton, NY 2/02-12/03 [see additional note]

All of the above show month & year. Month is numerated, spelled out or abbreviated.
The year displayed in full or 2 digits.

Other classics between 1901 & 1903 include:

Leroy, NY had a Dec. with no year was issued in 1902.
Northampton, MA, 1902 & 03 year only, no month.
Pine Bluff, NC, 1902 year only, no month.

Binghamton, NY Continued issuing month/year precancels from 1/04-10/15.
Glencoe, MN Dec. 1923

Later year only:

Binghanton, NY, 1915
Westerly, RI 1916
Edella, 1904, 05, 09, possible 1923
Lakeville, CT 1917, 18.

The error seems propagated from 1928 at least - and it appears to have been fixed for the first time in 2007 [the 7th edition of the T&T catalog]! So it has only been wrong for 80 years. Current, draft, pricing for the R-station dateds - any doubles are super scarce - I don't have any doubles:
Boston - Roxbury
Crossing Station MA
PSS Type L-1 E
1898
1¢ "6-01" ........................ $1.50
1¢ "6-01", inverted .......... $1.50
1¢ "7-01" ............................. $3
1¢ "8-01", inverted .......... $1.50
1¢ "9-01" ........................ $0.50
1¢ "9-01", inverted ............... $1
1¢ "9-01", double ............. $150
1¢ "10-01" ........................... $3
1¢ "11-01" ...................... $0.50
1¢ "11-01", inverted ............. $1
1¢ "12-01" ........................... $1
1¢ "12-01", inverted ............. $1
1¢ "12-01", double inverted$125
1¢ "3-02" ........................ $0.75
1¢ "3-02", inverted .......... $1.50
1¢ "4-02" ............................. $4
1¢ "4-02", inverted ............... $5
1¢ "5-02" ......................... $150

Thanks, Chasa!

Thanks, Chasa, for all of this valuable information. Getting back to the Chicago dateds, though, you note:




If this is accurate, then why are certain ones of these Chicago dateds display the year in only one digit? I understand they are LT-2TS (Variety 1) could that make a difference?

somebody mis-spoke, sometimes year is 1-digit

Yep 1 digit too!

Thanks for clarifying.