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Posted 02/22/2011   10:54 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add stampvirgin to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Well, I think I found a good one.


now I am trying to find out WHICH type of #1 it is..
Stone A or B or 1 or 2.

Any ideas?
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Posted 02/23/2011   01:01 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add otto to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Sweet!

The postmark is January. Stones A or B EKU was October 16, 1861, stone 1 EKU was October 18, 1861, and stone 2 EKU was December 2, 1861. The conventional wisdom I've read is that stamps were purchased at the time of use, so by that argument, it would be unlikely(?) that a stamp purchased in October or November wouldn't be used until January. So the cancel points to stone 2.

Stone 2 is described in the Scott Specialized as making poor impressions, and this impression ain't the greatest--just about all the examples I googled up were sharper--that would also point to stone 2.
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Posted 02/23/2011   02:12 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add wt1 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Nice stamp. It's a shame it's only torn off of a cover though. I did a quick internet search of "Clinch" and "Savannah, GA" and came up with this. It would have sure been interesting to know if this was the person to whom that communication was addressed back in that period of the Civil War:


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CLINCH'S 4TH GEORGIA CAVALRY

The 4th Georgia Cavalry Regiment was formed in January 1863 with the 3rd Georgia Cavalry Battalion as it's foundation. The 3rd Cavalry Battalion consisted of six companies The men that served in were from Appling, Camden, Charlton, Clinch, Coffee, Glynn, Pierce, Wayne and Ware counties. The commanders of the regiment were Colonel Duncan L. Clinch, Lt. Colonel John L. Harris and Major Jesse C. McDonald. The primary duty of the regiment was the defense of the Georgia coast from the Altamaha river south to the St. Marys river. In February 1864 Clinch's cavalry was sent to Olustee Station, Florida along with Colquitt's Brigade and the Chatham Artillery to assist in the defense of that area.. They were engaged in the battles at Olustee and Cedar Creek in northern Florida. In the summer of 1864 the regiment was assigned to M. W. Hannon's command and skirmished in Alabama, North Georgia and were later active in the defense of Savannah and in the Carolina campaign. in Dece mber 1864 a company of dismounted 4th Cavalry was involved in the "Battle of the Trestle" (the "Battle of Doctortown" near the Appling-Wayne County line. Clinch's 4th Cavalry which included 200 officers and men surrendered with the Army of Tennessee in March 1865.
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Posted 02/23/2011   08:21 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add stampvirgin to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I wrote to a CSA expert last night. and he states that it genuine with a Savannah, Ga postmark dated in January 1862. He says it looks to be a Stone 1 but can't plate it.
So I will need to send it off to be plated and to find out for sure which stone printed it.

WT. interesting piece of information. It could possibly be what it written.

thanks guys.
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Posted 02/23/2011   08:52 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add jhlovell to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
very nice stamp there stampvirgin
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Posted 02/23/2011   08:54 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add stampvirgin to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
thanks Jeff.
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Posted 03/08/2011   1:48 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add jamesw to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Having just gotten into confederate stamps, I am envious. It's a very interesting area, and that's lovely example.
Many are more valuable used than mint. And I think it's interesting that the Confederate post master Reagan was so good at his job, the Union offered him the same position after the war. Credit where credit is due.
Can any of you point me to good info about CA stamps and postal history? I've gleaned some from the web, but information is power, so they say.
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Posted 03/12/2011   11:14 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add I95 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The Confederate stamp is from stone #1. Bertram W. H. Poole's Plating, plates this stamp as position 50 (of the 50 stamps in the transfer stone)

"No. 50.-A small period is shown between the FIVE and CENTS."

Poole's articles in the 1915 and 1916 issues of the Philatelic Gazette are a good starting point if you care about the Confederate stamp plates and plating.
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Posted 03/12/2011   11:59 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

A great, interesting thread
It's cool when a stamp is plated.

or is that "stoned"
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Posted 03/13/2011   10:29 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add nitrolures to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hmmm back when I was in my early 20's I was a printer and also got stoned.
Great find Stampvirgin- I recently found a later confederate myself however much more common and not the right color from the value side of things. Anyone have full covers to show?
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Posted 03/13/2011   4:07 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add stampvirgin to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
thanks or the plating information
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