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Scott #113 Or Is It?

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Posted 03/01/2011   10:19 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add 1775mac to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Need some information for this one and any values if you have them.
Looks to have a guide arrow, and large numeral 2. It is grilled.

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Posted 03/01/2011   10:28 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add jhlovell to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I don't know about the 113 but it certainly is an interesting cross cancel you have there. 1775mac
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Posted 03/01/2011   11:18 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Russ to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
If it was not grilled, I would think it was a proof. I have not seen reports of imperf variety of 113. Possible printers waste?
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Posted 03/01/2011   11:51 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add 1775mac to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
That's what got me scratching my head. A small numeral I'd say a essay but has a grill. Looked at other proofs but not enough information found yet and like you said it still has the grill. The right side even has the start of another frame of a 113.
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Edited by 1775mac - 03/01/2011 11:56 pm
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Posted 03/02/2011   12:18 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Russ to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The grill I would say rules out a proof. It is hard to see good detail with the image size. Is it possible that the marks are defacement rather than cancels? I will look at a couple of other sources tomorrow pm and see if I come up wiyh anything else.
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Posted 03/02/2011   12:21 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add 1775mac to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Checked in before turning in. Give me a min. and will post a larger scan.

See if this one is better.


Back showing grill.
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Edited by 1775mac - 03/02/2011 12:32 am
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Posted 03/02/2011   12:53 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Russ to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The right side looks like it could be a defacement but the rest look like cancels. One interesting aspect is definite vertical and horizontal layout lines with a siderographers dot at the intersection. This layout is consistent with other layout lines for this issue.
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Posted 03/02/2011   07:54 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add stampvirgin to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Have you compared this stamp to others of its kind? A 112 perhaps?
You could have a find there.
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Posted 03/02/2011   08:25 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add jhlovell to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
that's a whole new stamp starting on the right edge 1775mac.
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Posted 03/02/2011   08:26 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add stallzer to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Here is a 112 if you'd like to compare.



They list a few imperfs of that era, but not this design and as you can clearly see, there is a part of the adjoining stamp next to it. There is no mention of of any imperfs for this one that I saw in scott's specialized so I'm inclined to agree with SV that you might just have quite the find.
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Posted 03/02/2011   08:32 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add stampvirgin to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
could it be a proof on India that was used? Or made to look used?

I'm starting to think it might be a proof that was canceled.
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Posted 03/02/2011   11:00 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add kirks to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I think I would opt for a professional certification....

but I'm still not sure what you should call it when you submit it
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Posted 03/02/2011   12:05 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Russ to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
mac, This is an image I found that show a similar vertical and horizontal layout line with the siderographers dot.


A check of PF certs shows that no imperfs have been submitted for cert.
The stamp is clearly position 1R of unknown plate sot the top and left side would be straight edge. The right side straddles the complete margin. Bottom margin is close and therefore a possible trim.
I see 3 possibilities:
1 genuine imperf
2 misperf (right) and trimmed
3 printers waste
Historically, PF tends to be cautious for previously undocumented imperfs but it is well worth submitting.
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Posted 03/02/2011   1:26 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add 1775mac to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I just do not know what it is. And it figures that I just sent a package off for expertizing this morning. Russ the picture you showed is just about a match. I still haven't called it a imperf yet as I do not want to get ahead of myself. Any more thoughts on this is greatly appreciated.
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Posted 03/02/2011   1:30 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Russ to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
mac, I will continue to go through all my reference materials and see if anything else comes up.
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Posted 03/02/2011   1:36 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Russ to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Mac, can you confirm that the paper is hard wove (regular for this issue)?
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