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Would You Borrow To Buy Stamps?

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Posted 03/30/2011   1:00 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add funcitypapa to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
very voluminous holdings. Are any of the stamps accompanied by certificates? I would be very cautious in trying to interpret soundness of these stamps, as well as whether some of the stamps that appear to be unused are indeed that. The other thing that strikes me is what is NOT there: this fella has three or four copies of the $3 snf $4 Columbians but no #245. Neither did I see a #72, #101, #262, #263, #277, #278, or #313. This man's holdings, aside from the revenue stamps looks more like an accumulation to me. Was he a dealer?
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Posted 03/30/2011   1:03 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add khj to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Funcitypapa, that's exactly what struck me as strange, even with the Canadian/foreign stamps shown earlier.
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Posted 03/30/2011   1:03 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add fredcdobbs to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
HA!! Just as I suspected, dealer dollar box, beginner stuff.
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Posted 03/30/2011   1:14 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add nitrolures to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I just spoke to him on the phone and basially he just bought what he wanted when opportunity came along. He definatly knows what he has and doesn't sound like he's looking for a quick buck or two . Have the opp to go over and view before they get back to the vault . It definatly doesn't look as if he was trying to collect & catalog but more just acquire as mentioned. For example with the full sheets of Canadian weights & measures (not pictured) he was in Cali 8-10 yrs ago and bought the lot an older guy just wanted gone. I pretty well view this as an investment type rather than collection however I'd damn sure like to have even the used assortment and the few covers .
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Posted 03/30/2011   1:20 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add khj to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
OK, thanks for the update. Now the presentation makes sense.

Feel free to post more pictures if you want!
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Posted 03/30/2011   1:26 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add jhlovell to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Nice group of holdings, looks like something for someone with a lifetime to sort through and determine soundness, and quality. Certainly is appealing, but as everyone mentioned the presentation would be greatly enhanced/valued by some certs and a little organization. Certainly is well beyond my means, but I would be interested in knowing if any of the US material became available with a price or auction amount. Like the man said "And now the rest of the story". Will be waiting with baited breath. Thanks for posting Nitrolures, you have given me something to dream about. - Jeff
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Posted 03/30/2011   1:29 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add wt1 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Some excellent looking material, some very nice and rare specimens, some with catalog values over $1000+ oddly mixed in with the more common varieties. No one can really make an accurate assessment by computer scans though, as stamps of this caliber can easily go down in value with the slightest defect that can't always be seen in a scan, and I know from experience that a lot of the back of book materials (revenues, postage dues, Offices in China, envelope cut squares, etc.) look nice and many command a reasonably good "catalog" value, but are often difficult to re-sell as you have to be a BOB specialist or have keen interest in those sections of the catalog to get into those fields.

Although the collection is impressive, it's out of my league, so I don't have to worry about it. But interestingly enough, when reviewing the previous responses on who would borrow to buy a collection like this, the majority would not. Out of 21 responses I counted, it seems that 4 (19%) would borrow if the opportunity presented itself; 3 (14%) maybe; and 14 (67%) would not.
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Posted 03/30/2011   1:30 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Puzzler to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Holy Smoly. Wow.

And he has worldwide also?

That is museum stuff. Thanks for posting the pics.
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Posted 03/30/2011   1:31 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add nitrolures to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
And here are a few for the UK/possesions fans. Some of these are beautiful work . Couple shown previously but was easier to copy and paste all.
Can anyone fill me in on the Shanghai US overprints? When and why were they done?



























































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Posted 03/30/2011   1:36 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add philb to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Anyone bidding on that sort of stuff sends an agent to look it over VERY CAREFULY..the spread in actual value would be in thousands !!
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Posted 03/30/2011   1:40 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add mhc99 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
nitrolures, the scans reflect an impressive collection/accumulation. Has your friend given you any indication whether he is willing to sell individual stamps?
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Posted 03/30/2011   1:44 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add khj to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Now ironically, the sheer size of the accumulation will actually severely limit the number/type of buyers if you want to dispose of the holdings in a couple of sales, rather than sell things individually/sections like a dealer.

Accumulators (like me) invariably learn over the years that if you are purchasing something for your accumulation (as opposed to specific items for your collection), you had better buy it dirt cheap, or else don't buy it at all. Otherwise, you will end up losing a lot of money when you try to sell off your accumulation. It's easy to sell a handful of items. It's hard to sell off the entire accumulation in one shot at a good price. Most of the time, only major dealers or auction houses handle such accumulations, and you know they have to make money off this...
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Posted 03/30/2011   1:44 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add wt1 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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Can anyone fill me in on the Shanghai US overprints? When and why were they done?


I've used this explanation (taken from Linn's Stamp News) to accompany my set of Shanghai, China overprints.



As I referenced in my previous post, most dealers who looked at my set weren't particularly interested in it to buy, as it is BOB specialist material that have a limited market.
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Posted 03/30/2011   3:12 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add stampvirgin to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
How much????
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Posted 03/30/2011   3:58 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add jhlovell to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
now you have jumped into the "just being cruel" department :-)
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