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Posted 06/16/2011   1:52 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add jamesw to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
This is the back of a US #69 I won last night o ebay. Are these initials MB likely the mark of certification or just an owners mark? There is no certification with the stamp.




Luckily the stain doesn't really show on the front.
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Posted 06/16/2011   1:56 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add I_Love_Stamps to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Is it embossed in or just written? Could have been an inspectors mark from the paper maker, but if it were it wouldn't most likely be so perfectly aligned on the corner like that. most probably just an owners mark. just a thought as I am no expert on such thing.
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Edited by I_Love_Stamps - 06/16/2011 1:58 pm
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Posted 06/16/2011   2:04 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add jamesw to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I only have this screen capture from the site. It looks like a rubber stamp of the initials in purple ink.
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Posted 06/16/2011   2:39 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add jhlovell to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
probably just a dealers mark, james. - jeff
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Posted 06/16/2011   2:50 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Puzzler to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Link to a web site that has worldwide dealer marks listed by name or country. At least three that have names that could be the MB.
https://www.stampcommunity.org/post...&FORUM_ID=15

I am no expert or even knowledgeable in this area myself but it is fascinating. These marks were forged at times also.

edit: link does not work as originally posted.
Should take you to filitelia dot fi (finland) and then experts.
Google search for expert marks and the first result.
Try again
http://www.filatelia.fi/experts/
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Edited by Puzzler - 06/26/2011 7:27 pm
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Posted 06/16/2011   4:59 pm  Show Profile Check Rileysan's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Rileysan to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Good link, Puzzler. The marks are owner, dealer or expertizer marks. As Puzzler stated, they were often forged so as to create the impression of a certified stamp. On a US # 69, it's almost certainly an owner or dealer mark. There would be no need for an expertizing mark as a 69.
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Posted 06/26/2011   1:22 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add mhc99 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Puzzler, when I click on your link, it takes me to a "Reply to Topic" screen. Rileysan states that the link worked for him earlier so does anyone else also have a problem with this link?
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Edit: Thanks Puzzler for fixing the link.
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Edited by mhc99 - 06/26/2011 8:01 pm
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Posted 06/26/2011   2:03 pm  Show Profile Check Rileysan's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Rileysan to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The link has changed for some reason. It does the same for me, now.
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Posted 06/26/2011   3:56 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add revstampman to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Their is no MB on the list of Expert Marks. Must be an owners or dealers stamp.
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Posted 06/29/2011   1:16 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add pobrien36 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I have a #69 that I recently purchased on bidstart and it also has a name on the back.
M. Brettl...(the rest is cut off?)

Must be the same M.B. that's on your stamp.
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Edited by pobrien36 - 06/29/2011 2:18 pm
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Posted 06/29/2011   1:20 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add jamesw to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Possibly. Is it in a similar style? Can you post a picture?
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Posted 06/29/2011   1:21 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add pobrien36 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I will post a pic in a little bit.
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Posted 06/29/2011   1:31 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add pobrien36 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Here it is:

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Posted 06/29/2011   1:36 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add jamesw to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Well, I'd say interesting they both use a rubber stamp with similar, though not identical fonts. I guess it's possible, but impossible to prove unless there was documentation of Mr. Brettl? also using the MB stamp.
A mystery.
How's the front of your 69 look?
I'm still waiting for mine. Bought it a couple of weeks ago and it's been caught in the limbo of our postal strike.


The experts website that puzzler indicated has a Maria Brettl

http://www.filatelia.fi/experts/namesa.html

No doubt that's you expert, pobrien36.
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Edited by jamesw - 06/29/2011 1:53 pm
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Posted 06/29/2011   2:17 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add pobrien36 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Very neat, thanks for pointing that out jamesw.
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Posted 06/29/2011   2:17 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add pobrien36 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Very neat, thanks for pointing that out jamesw.
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