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I am going through some unsorted classic stamps and I have a great many 'perfin' stamps. What do I need to know about them when organizing and contemplating liquidation?
This is an area of the hobby I do not intend to persue. I am assuming there is a market of enough people that do collect these to make them somewhat desireable?
Thoughts?
Also, I have revenue stamps cancelled the same way. Should I put them all together as a set, or are the revenues another area that do not fall into the perfin arena of collecting?
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Perforated Initials or "Perfins" are highly collectable and some are very valuable. When I was at APS "Stamp Camp" a few years back there were a bunch of Perfin-heads who were going crazy for the stuff  Basically, any material with perfins was ok by them so I would think the revenue stamps would be fine too. They also like to display their stamps back side up to show the initials more clearly. Kind of nice, no worries about centering! I would keep all your perfins together as a group. I collect revenues but have no interest in cut stamps or holes of any kind but I'm sure there are plenty of collectors who do. I believe there is a very active Perfin Society (out of the UK?). I'm sure I've seen references to them in Linns and AP. |
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Perfins are a collecting speciality, but I would tend to keep revenues separate from postage stamps. Typically, perfins on revenues were a means of cancellation for the stamp; perfins on postage stamps were not intended as a cancellation but as a means to prevent theft, especially in larger companies/organizations. There is a US Perfin site that has helpful information at this link: http://www.perfins.org/Intros/intro.htm |
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Interesting link. Perfins were authorized for US use in 1908. Most of the ones I am finding are pre-1920, so they should be pretty easy to identify. ???
I see the site has a perfin specific forum. I appreciate the info! I'll post more inquires in the proper section I suppose!
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There are books and catalogs that make efforts at identifying perfins, but a number of them are "unknown" ... as in no on-cover example is known so there is no proof of who may or may not have used the perfin. I posted this example recently and the response was that my "guess" may likely be correct, but there's no documented proof to confirm or deny it so it's left to conjecture at this point (or at least until a documented cover is found.) Sometimes they can become a bit of a challenge: https://goscf.com/t/16574 |
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| Edited by wt1 - 06/30/2011 9:56 pm |
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Very good point, wt1. I neglected to consider that fact. The perforated initials identify the company or organization and are not cancellations. Not so with revenues. I thought at some point I had seen perfins of banks on revenues but, as you correctly pointed out, that would be as a "killer" not to discourage theft. |
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Here is a partial list of Belgian perfins
AA (no periods) Avak - Avakian
A.A. (periods) Avak – Avakian (?)
AB (A.B.) Anglo Belge, Zulte
AB / & C unknown
A B . / D C. (Partial periods) unknown (period after "A" but not "B" / period after "D" but not "C"
A.C. (period at top of "C") unknown
A.D. unknown
A.D.C. unknown
A.F. unknown
A.G. unknown
AH unknown
A.K. unknown
AK (joined monograph) unknown
A.L. unknown
A.M. / D.T. unknown
A.M. / N. unknown
AP L. Durinage, Brussels
A.U. unknown
AUER Lighter Fluid Co. (?)
A.V. unknown
B.A. unknown user
BB (#B14) Banque Bruxelles, 61 Rue de la Regence, Brussels
If there are enough interested in those from "C" on. Just let me know and I put them in here in increments so that the messages aren't too long.
Chimo
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@Bujutsu; ty a lot! how have you obtained that info? Just from researching covers? I'm very interested in the complete list! |
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Scarah
I got a lot of my information from either dealers boxes, internet or auctions and the stamps etc that are in my own collection.
Chimo
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| Edited by Bujutsu - 07/02/2011 1:49 pm |
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Here are a few more listings of Belgian perfins
"B"
B unknown user
B.A. unknown user
BB (#B14) Banque Bruxelles, 61 Rue de la Regence, Brussels
BB (#B21) Banque de Bruxelles (D'Anvers) 1935-1937 Note! – 2 Types -> 1 – initials close together 2 – wide apart
BBC unknown
B.B.U. (?) unknown user
B.C. Bruxelles Chancellerie
B.C. unknown user
B.& C. unknown user
B.C.B. with periods unknown user
BP (no periods) British Petroleum (?)
B.P. (with periods) British Petroleum (?)
B.C.B. unknown user
B & C unknown
B.C.D. unknown
B.C.S. unknown
BDC (no periods) Banque de Commerce, Antwerp 1934-1935
B.D.C. (periods) unknown
BEM (no periods) unknown
B.F. Banque de Flandre
B.G. unknown WW I German Occupation
B.G.B. unknown
B.N. Banque Nationale (?)
B.O. unknown
BP British Petroleum (?)
BP / & / F Besse Pere & Fils
BT Banque Belge du Travail 1924-1927
B.T. / M. unknown
B.V. unknown
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"C"
C. (period) unknown
C (no period) unknown
CA (no periods) unknown
C.A. (periods) unknown
CB (no periods) unknown
CB. (Period after "B" only) unknown
C.B. (periods) unknown
CF Colin Freres
C.G.L. unknown
CL (no periods) Credit Lyonais (?)
C.L. (periods) Credit Lyonais (?)
CM Modele Chocolate
C.N. unknown
C.P.F. unknown
CPP unknown
C.P.R. unknown
CR unknown
CRI unknown
CS C. Fast, Antwerp 1923
C & S. (period after "S" only) unknown
C.W. unknown
"D"
DARTOIS unknown
D.B (period after "D" only) unknown
D & Co unknown
DLC unknown
DN / C unknown
DP Banque de Paris et des Pays Must have Diederich & Paquet, Boulevard Anspach
DV The Vadder Freres, Brussels & Gureghem 1924-1948
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Re Perfins
Will post more of these if the members do not mind this type of listing.
There are a lot of 'unknowns' but at least members will be made aware of the different patterns available.
Chimo
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Sorry, I was away for a bit. Could you post more of these or send them to my e-mail? |
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Hi,
Does anyone know for what V.G. stands for on Belgium perfin I found? |
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I came across this thread while researching perfins actually and had forgotten about it.
Regarding the "V G" perfin, unfortunately, it is still classified as an 'unknown'.
Chimo
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