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1902 1c Franklin Did They Do A Rotary????

 
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Posted 07/06/2011   1:03 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add razersedge to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Because I thought they only did flat plate printing but I found this on ebay, and I think the owner is confused or having a laugh, but I thought I had better check with everyone on here in case there was a experimental one that is not listed, before I burst the bubble he is living in, so he can save some money with the ebay listing fees
US STAMP 1c GREEN ROTARY PRESS BENJAMIN FRANKLIN 1902
ebay no:220808641317
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Posted 07/06/2011   2:06 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add wt1 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Is this the listing you are referring to?

http://cgi.ebay.com/220808641317?ru=http://shop.ebay.com:80/i.html%3F_from%3DR40%26_trksid%3Dp5197.m570.l1313%26_nkw%3D220808641317%26_sacat%3DSee-All-Categories%26_fvi%3D1&_rdc=1#ht_483wt_702

Never heard of any such thing.

Scott Catalog suggests that Rotary Press printing was not implemented until 1915 (well after this issue of 1903).

Besides, price is insane. Condition is terrible. Pictures are blurred (perhaps intentionally). No description detail is provided. Even if it were an experimental stamp or some other such thing, no one would even consider it unless it were expertized.

All good reasons why you should move on to something else.
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Posted 07/06/2011   3:10 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Russ to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The first rotary press issues were coil format. Scott 453 was issued July 3, 1914. The first Stickney rotary press was not completed until late 1913 and technical problems were not resolved until late spring of 1914. Rotary press sheet stamps were not issued until 1920. The stamp shown is Scott 300. In good used condition it would be worth about 2 cents.
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Posted 07/06/2011   3:38 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add tomiseksj to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
This guy sells books, plates, etc. -- stamps aren't his strong suit ("had to peel it from an old post card").

I think he believes he has the 1908 1c perf 12 horizontal coil stamp, based on his $125,000 live auction result assertion.

There is some truth, however, to what he claims -- the 1c SERIES 1902 green rotary press IS a difficult stamp to find well-centered because it doesn't exist!
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Posted 07/06/2011   3:48 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add I_Love_Stamps to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
ha-ha that is simply outrageous! 65K for a crinkled up old stamp? lol
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Posted 07/06/2011   5:40 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add razersedge to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I didn't want to be cruel but I did have a good laugh when I saw it, I thought the first rotary was the later washingtons but wondered if I could be a experimental stamp because this was the series with the first coil stamps but even if it was 65k for a stamp that looked like it had been used to clean dishes!!
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Posted 07/06/2011   5:51 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add razersedge to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I did wonder if it was a money laundering thing or something like that as there are a lot of run of the mill normal stamp coming on with silly price tags and they are always with new users and most of the scams on ebay are with new users accounts but here are a couple more.
Item number: 230642953354
Item number: 250849875673
I always like to see the top end stuff that is for sale on ebay (it's the closest I get to them)
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Posted 07/06/2011   6:07 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add tomiseksj to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Amazing. One has to wonder if sellers like those are just hoping to find an idiot with money to burn (the scammers) or if they really believe that what they have is valuable (the uninformed).
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Posted 07/06/2011   6:57 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add stallzer to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Don't kid yourself for a moment. This clown seller pastpurpose is intentionally trying to defraud someone of their Money. People like this should be NARU'd permanently and furthermore please use the seller's name in your post when posting outrageous items like this. The more people that use the sellers name will cause Google to point people to this thread and perhaps someone can be spared and keep their Money where it belongs, not with this clown.
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Posted 07/06/2011   8:55 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add wt1 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Here's another ebay absurdity. No returns, either!

http://cgi.ebay.com/US-2-cent-posta...ht_500wt_898
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Posted 07/06/2011   9:28 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Russ to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Looks like he built the free shipping into the price.
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Posted 07/07/2011   06:55 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rohumpy to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Probably more outrageous than the free shipping is the "economy" shipping on the 65,000 dollar offering.
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Posted 07/07/2011   07:59 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add stallzer to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The 1902 Franklin listing has been removed. I felt compelled to report it to ebay and to contact the seller, to which he replied that "It was an honest mistake" .......yea....right...
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Posted 07/07/2011   2:27 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add wt1 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
WOW! Five (5) stamps are included and you need to be a millionaire to afford it ... and no returns!

What's sad about these listings is that there are some that are not so blown out of proportion but where they get uninformed people to pay outrageous sums for stamps worth only a pittance. The old adage "Knowledge is Power" is at work here, and at least SCF helps out with that.

Personally, I've not listed stamps on ebay, but if I were the ebay bosses, I think I'd start imposing a mandatory fee on listings about six figures (whether there's a sale or not) and then you'd see some of these outrageous listings go away in a hurry.
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