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57-61 1 Cent Franklin Type ID Please

 
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Posted 07/06/2011   8:43 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add nitrolures to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
These drive me crazy and I generally assume the lowest value but this seems a nice copy and I want to double check to be sure. Thanks to all
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Posted 07/06/2011   9:25 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Russ to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Type V Scott 24
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Posted 07/06/2011   9:34 pm  Show Profile Check sinclair2010's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add sinclair2010 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Nitrolures, can you post a better image?
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Posted 07/06/2011   9:41 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add nitrolures to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks Russ and Sinclair. Unfortunatly not in my possesion so scan is borrowed. Sooner or later I'll find a good deal on one other than type V.
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Posted 07/06/2011   10:23 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Russ to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Nitro, the right side ornaments are pretty complete so there is a possibility that it could be a Plate 5 Type Va (which is why sinclair was wanting a better scan). Although the ornaments are complete enough to possibly be Type Va there appears to be transfer scratches in the lower right.
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Posted 07/06/2011   10:36 pm  Show Profile Check sinclair2010's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add sinclair2010 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Nitrolures, Russ is correct, that is why I wanted a better image and was telling you that when I lost my electricity for the second time tonight.

Russ, their really are no side scratches on the E relief and that is what makes it one of the trickier reliefs. I think this stamp deserves a closer look.
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Posted 07/06/2011   10:44 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add nitrolures to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I will ask for a higher res scan. I see a 1a and a 111a but no Va listed . Where does the Va fit into the equation?
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I'm looking at that stamp for the same reason that it might be a va
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Posted 07/07/2011   11:37 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add nitrolures to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
what would the value difference be on the two varieties. The stamp is listed as unused no gum however not sure if gum stains or remnants of very light cancel , plus few perf issues. This would be for personal and price is low but if just type V I'm not sure . Thanks to all for looking a bit harder and I am waiting on better scan.
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Posted 07/07/2011   12:11 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Russ to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
razersedge, the drawings of the differences between the Type V and Va are generic. Both the Type V and Va were made from a 6 relief (A-F) transfer roll. Each of the reliefs are different with the Relief B, C and D in the Type V being easily identified due to heavy transfer scratches on the right. Plate 5 was entered with 142 position as Type Va from transfer roll 3. Transfer roll 4 produced the remaining 58 positions as Type V. Roll 4 was either a new roll or most likely a modification of roll 3.
Transfer roll 4 was used for Plate 7, 8 and probably 9 and 10. The drawings above probably most closely resemble a Type V relief B and Type Va relief F. The distinctions can be quite subtle.

Nitro, the Type Va is valued at 2.5-3 times that of the Type V.
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