A Little Story Behind The Stamp

sometimes we need to "listen" to the stories told by stamps to ensure that mistakes of the past are not repeated - by not confronting the past we endanger the future

Nice pages Lofty!
I wonder if the poster from Norway- if it is a problem with conveying correct meaning in English as it would be his second- or third language. OTOH, most people from Norway that I've met have a better grasp of English than I do. ;-)

I agree with you Jkjblue, lets stick with the topic on
hand, loftys nice pages with stamps, not politics which will only lead to having the mods delete this thread.

Well stated Huckles888. I also very much enjoyed looking over your beautiful page Lofty and would love to own a collection of that magnitude! Congrats!

by the way lofty it was remiss of me not to say what a great "write up" of your collection and excellent looking stamps

Lofty, love your illustrated German album pages. I really enjoyed your documentation and pictures surrounding the stamps appearing on each page.

First, I'd also like to congratulate Lofty65 on a very attractive and well-presented presentation.

Of course I agree with the maxim that those who ignore the lessons of history are condemned to repeat them. But are we really likely to forget the lessons of the 1930s and 1940s?

I find this sort of glorification of that era rather distasteful, and I'm sure a Norwegian member - whose country was occupied by the Nazis - would find it even more distasteful. I, for one, wouldn't be unhappy if this thread was abolished by the Moderators.

It is a fine line between illustrating a story and glorification and I must confess to having reservations over the overt nature of the design which is why I was interested to see other pages -edit- showing a different theme.

I wasn't going to post anymore about this but....

tonymacg, even though I respect how you feel about this, I
totally disagree with you in having this whole thread deleted.

What's next? No one is allowed to show any German stamps
issued between 1933 and 1945 ? On this forum or any fora or
on the net, period ?

And after that no one is allowed to own any Third Reich stamps?

And if after all this you still have some of these
stamps and someone reports you, will the
stamp police come to your house and confiscate them ?

And finally after they have collected all these
nasty bits of paper, will collectors be forced to
watch a public burning in the town square?

Lithograving, I think you fail to grasp what I was driving at.

I have no objection to people collecting stamps of the Third Reich, or of Fascist Italy, or of Stalin's Soviet Union, or any other of countless distasteful régimes. I have no objection to showing them here, or anywhere else. I have no objection to buying, selling or swapping them here, or on ebay or wherever else. I have no objection precisely because, contrary to the driving philosophies of these sorts of régimes, I'm happy to allow free speech.

What I most certainly do feel uncomfortable about is the seeming glorification of the era which comes through in the presentation of the stamps in the original post. I quite fail to see how that can remind anyone of the evils of Nazism. Indeed, if anything, it seems to me to tend in the opposite direction.

There are a great many things we're not permitted to write or display here on SCF. That's OK: those are the rules here. I'd be happy to find that this thread fell under one of those prohibitions. (And I write as one who has had a thread wiped, for what I think was something far less egregious.)

I might be wrong here, but I would guess that the pages are not made to remind anyone of the evils of Nazism, or the opposite. I would guess they were made to put the stamps into their historical context, and explain some of the history behind them.

Just because the pages look good does not mean they are glorifying anything.

What can I say, it is not my intention to glorify any part of the Nazi period, the rational behind the page illustrations was to show an association between the stamp and the group it represented. On the first page that I showed was an illustration of the flag of the sports governing body of the third Reich, the second page was showing the difference between the arm bands worm by male or female labour corps members and the last page showed the tunic badge of the air raid precautions group and the two other pictures show that it was made up of mainly young boys and girls.
All I can say is, this is how I illustrate some of my pages, I will carry on doing so, I just will not post anymore to view.

Lofty65, I congratulate on your fine work of presentation, and on your decision not to post any more of them here.

Lofty65,

Your initial question "How do other members lay out their pages"? I guess I'm not as creative as I should be. I take what I get and use the pages someone else created for me, like Scott or Harris.

But, after seeing what you have created makes me want to do better and I'm going to start creating my own sheets.

PLEASE DO NOT STOP showing your album pages or your stamps! Each stamp is a piece of paper showing history and if someone takes offense then that person doesn't have to read the thread or their history. Its the creative person and their work that inspire others.

Art

Lofty
You make beautiful pages and they do look like a glorification of the Nazi regime. The bright colors had so much realism. But I believe that some extremists nowodays parade in the streets in Germany with the Nazi flag. So a little more a little less, I auction myself Nazi stamps on this forum. About your pages I don't know how many you made so far but I believe it's allot of work. You put complete info and a colorful design. It's very time consumming and expensive on buying color cartridges for the printer. For my Europa collection I made hundreds of simple design pages. There is no way I would have spend the time and money to do pages like yours. But it's your collection and your pages are very attractive and full of informations. Bravo. Daniel