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US - 5˘ Meter Cover Ca1. Pitney Bowes "Model M"

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Posted 09/09/2011   08:48 am  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add smauggie to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
A recent acquisition posted on the Steamer Ship Minnekahda.
This was the first model of the Group C indicia of US metered postage which entered use in the previous year, 1922.

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Posted 09/09/2011   12:12 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add I_Love_Stamps to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Smauggie, here is some great info on those if your interested. I snagged this link way back around the time when I first joined here from (wt1's)?? a related thread.
~Jay
http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Intern...outer_frame.
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Posted 09/09/2011   12:20 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add wt1 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
In case you were interested in the Steamship that took the cover to its destination:

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Posted 09/09/2011   3:26 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add smauggie to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I knew I could count on wt1 for the image of the steamer.

Thanks for posting the link. I think it is great to have it posted to all meter threads.
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Posted 09/12/2011   3:59 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add stallzer to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Smauggie, I didn't know this was a collecting interest of yours. I have a nice little spread sheet that someone over at the Auxiliary markings society sent me that shows EKU's and Latest date usage of all US Meters. I'll see if I can dig it up and get it over to you. I'll also dig up my Metered Mail and perhaps I might have a few that you need which I'd gladly send across the River :)
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Posted 09/12/2011   5:08 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add smauggie to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hey Stallzer,

That would be greatly appreciated! Yes, my interest started as a curiousity, but has obviously grown on me tremendously.

Now what I need to do is buy a ton of stock pages (vario) to put my collection in.

I have been keeping an eye out for turtle meters for you-know-who, but they are really quite scarce (at least in my collection).
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Posted 09/12/2011   6:33 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add stallzer to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
You might enjoy these if you have not seen or been to these sites yet, tons of good info.

http://www.turtlemeterstamp.altervista.org/

http://www.meterstampsociety.com/links.html
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Posted 09/12/2011   8:28 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add stallzer to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Smauggie, disregard the email about not posting the link, I just checked on the Meter stamp Society website and it is available for free.

US Catalog of Oval Postage meter indica.

http://www.meterstampsociety.com/Li...g020210s.pdf
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Posted 09/12/2011   9:34 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add smauggie to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you, Stallzer.
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Posted 09/13/2011   12:06 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add smauggie to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Turns out this particular denomination is not listed in the catalog for this permit/user. How exciting!

Edit: I have forwarded this cover and info to the editor of the publication linked above. It will be included in the next edition. It feels great to be a constructive part of philately (even if in such a minor way).
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Posted 09/13/2011   11:23 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add stallzer to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Smauggie, actually it is listed as I found it last night as I was playing around. The way to locate it is to use the Find function (Box at upper center) and type in the Meter number. Then keep mashing the enter key until you find your meter number as that Meter number is listed in a few places.
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Posted 09/13/2011   12:14 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add smauggie to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Er, turns out you are right.



The entry only lists a start date. May be the info will be useful still.
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Posted 09/13/2011   12:28 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add stallzer to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Also on their website (Meter Stamp society) they have submission forms in case you find you have an EKU that precedes theirs or if you have a later known usage, you can fill it out and attach a scan so they can keep updating their catalog.
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Posted 09/13/2011   12:35 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add smauggie to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Yes, apparently I wasn't good at finding things last night, because I couldn't find that either, so I made my own.
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Interesting information and links. While my examples below are not of any high values, I find them interesting as they do conflict with the catalog listings, as they are later dated meters (1935) that are after the LKU dates shown:

L.F. Rothchild & Co. (Catalog references EKU as 11/23/1935):
https://www.ebay.com/itm/-/152904061935 target _blank 152904061935 /a .jpg" border="0" style='cursor:default' onClick='doimage(this,event)'>

R.W. Pressprich & Co. (Catalog references LKU as 09/12/1934):
https://www.ebay.com/itm/-/214406101935 target _blank 214406101935 /a .jpg" border="0" style='cursor:default' onClick='doimage(this,event)'>

Holcomb Crucible Steel (Catalog references LKU as 04/06/1933):
https://www.ebay.com/itm/-/746704101935 target _blank 746704101935 /a .jpg" border="0" style='cursor:default' onClick='doimage(this,event)'>

State of New York (Catalog references LKU as 11/01/1934):
https://www.ebay.com/itm/-/789006071935 target _blank 789006071935 /a .jpg" border="0" style='cursor:default' onClick='doimage(this,event)'>

This one is even more questionable, as a meter number of 511 isn't even shown in the above catalog (Edit: Or might this be Meter 511 shown on page 310, attributed to 16th Floor of 11 Wall St.?) with usage from 06/22/1934 to 07/03/1935. I question if that is correct or not, because the central portion of the indicia shown below does not match the examples referred to in the catalog:

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Edited by wt1 - 09/13/2011 6:48 pm
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Posted 09/13/2011   3:50 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add smauggie to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
This is what I find fun and exciting about meters, that there is still so much to learn about how and when they were used.

I did get a response on the above meter: "Meter 1057 with New York, N.Y. Permit 6 has been reported with dates 3/27/22 to 4/28/26."

Cheers.
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