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#10A On Cover, Twice

 
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Posted 09/25/2011   6:43 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add artlaunier to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
I received both my auction winning covers and I'm very pleased with then. The 2nd is from Plate 1e, I have good reason to believe, the 1st I was told, has the Outer Frame Line Error. Hopefully, Mr. Sinclair will chime in and explain in more detail.

I'm waiting for one more 10a stamp, not cover, to come in then I'll send them all to Bill Weise for Certifications.







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A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed. (The exact & entire wording of the 2nd Amendment to the U.S. Constitution)
Edited by artlaunier - 09/25/2011 6:46 pm

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Posted 09/25/2011   7:33 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add wt1 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
As it relates to your second scan, a 10E was issued in July 1851 and according to this brief biography, which I believe to be the named addresee, she married in December 1855, which helps to narrow down the usage of this example to within four years or sometime from 1851-1855:

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Posted 09/27/2011   9:04 pm  Show Profile Check sinclair2010's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add sinclair2010 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The stamp on your first cover is from position 90L2E. That position has the recutting error where the outer right frameline extends down and joins to the stamp below. There is only one other orange brown stamp that has a similar error and that is position 1L1i. 90L2L looks very similar as they are the same position, the only difference being from re-entry and some more recutting.

I cannot say whether your second stamp is from Plate 1E or i, it looks to be one of them for sure. It was a mistake in the listing to say it was from Plate 1E but there is no real difference in value between the two. I have no reason to believe the position marked on the cover, 90L1i, is wrong. The color is a pale orange brown. That stamp is so clean and fresh looking it literally looks like it was printed and mailed yesterday.
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Posted 09/27/2011   11:41 pm  Show Profile Check ray.mac's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add ray.mac to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Congratulations, Art......well fought battle!
Ray
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Posted 09/28/2011   06:52 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add I_Love_Stamps to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I also have a 10A on cover. What does it accomplish having it certed exactly? I am just curious and not being cynical..too early in the morning for that...lol
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Posted 09/28/2011   11:36 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add artlaunier to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Why have any stamp certified, on or off cover? JMO, if a stamp is worthy of certification off cover wouldn't it be just as, or even more so, worthy to be certified on cover?

IMO, there are several reasons to have a stamp certified, particularly when there are slight differences between them and another. Like A10 design, the 10, 10A, 11, 11A, 25, 25A where the perforation and the color are the major difference, they still follow the same A10 design. Then there are at least 15 different scott numbers for the 1 cent Ben Franklin. Counting imperf & perf varieties there are
and the A5 design 5, 5A, 18
and the A6 design 6, 6b, 19, 19b,
and the A7 design 7, 20
and the A8 design 8, 8A, 21, 22,
and the A9 design 9, 23
and the A20 design 24
and I'm sure I missed some.

Most differences are, at best, hard to determine. The type, the plate, etc. I can figure out perf & imperf, unless someone cut off the perfs.

Some carry a huge difference in value as just the single stamp. Then if its on cover the value can take another jump. The 2011 Scotts
for example;
5 single $85,000.00 then on cover $95,000.00
6 single $13,000.00 then on cover $17,500.00
7 single $160.00 then on cover $190.00
8 single $3,250.00 then on cover $3,500.00
9 single $120.00 then on cover $140.00
10 single $200.00 then on cover $275.00
11 single $15.00 then on cover $17.50

Me, I still cann't tell the difference between a #8 and #9, at least I'm uncertain. So, I'll pay the cert fee and then I'll know for sure. Using the same logic should hold true if its on cover or not.

Just my humble opinion...

Art
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A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed. (The exact & entire wording of the 2nd Amendment to the U.S. Constitution)
Edited by artlaunier - 09/28/2011 1:00 pm
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Posted 09/29/2011   07:03 am  Show Profile Check sinclair2010's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add sinclair2010 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
ILS, why don't you post your 10A cover here along with Art's?
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Posted 10/04/2011   5:11 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add artlaunier to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I just got my covers back from Bill Weiss and am happy to say they came back as positive 10a. I had little doubt, considering the source of the covers. Even happier, the single came back as a positive 10a VF-XF.

Art
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A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed. (The exact & entire wording of the 2nd Amendment to the U.S. Constitution)
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