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Posted 10/07/2011   1:58 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add PoStat4evR to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
While checking out items on ebay a while ago, I noted there were 2 postal stationery German postal cards. Both were mailed from Germany
(as there was no mailing postmark indicating such) to an delivery address in Germany. They both had Seapost (New York to Bremmer and the other New York to Hamburg) cancels!

Can someone explain to me how the cancels got there? Was it a normal
postal proceedure to mail items within Germany via New York?
Could perhaps this be a "doctored" item? (I am speaking tounge in cheek here.)

I think I will pass on them. If anyone wants them they are still there. Good luck..
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Posted 10/07/2011   2:01 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add PoStat4evR to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Got to thinking over my own post. The only "true" use would be if the items were posted on a steamship, using German Postal items, cancelled on board the ship and then sent by regular mail once the ship docked. I guess that would validate it.
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Posted 10/07/2011   3:05 pm  Show Profile Check Rileysan's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Rileysan to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I am curious, myself. There are several really sharp Germany specialists here on SCF who can probably answer!
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Posted 10/07/2011   3:13 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add smauggie to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
My guess is the only information that could be provided is purely conjecture without being able to see the item or items in question.
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Posted 10/07/2011   3:16 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add PoStat4evR to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Go to ebay, search for "SEEmail" (sellers spelling) in stamps and take a look.





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Edited by PoStat4evR - 10/07/2011 3:47 pm
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Thank you. The cancel is for a seapost route that goes from Bremen to New York. Postdam was a stop along the way (as well as perhaps other German and international ports).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seapost_Service
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Posted 10/07/2011   4:06 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add dmui to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Here are examples of other German Seapost onboard cancels:



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The is "Bremen & New York" for the Deutsch American Line & would have used the same or similar postmark if it came from USA. Postdam was the starting point of this card!
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Edited by warrehouse - 10/07/2011 4:59 pm
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On the Potsdam card above, it was posted from onboard a ship traveling the Bremen-New York Line (accounting for the seepost cancel), and received in Potsdam (accounting for the Potsdam arrival cancel).

On second thought, something doesn't add up about that seepost cancel. The ship identifier looks like "IV", which, at that time, would have been the Aller. But the Aller wasn't traveling the Bremen-New York Line in May 1895. Could that "IV" be a "II", "III", or "VII"?
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Can verify its source
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