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Posted 11/07/2011   6:29 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add chasa to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Can anybody tell whats 'fishy' about these...








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Posted 11/07/2011   6:45 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add warrehouse to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
These are Bureaus with a Nebr. overprint, but they should only be locals.
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Posted 11/07/2011   7:27 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add quigngt to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
You may want to check the back of the stamps to see if there is evidence of a typewriter strikes on the stamps, especially the period strike. That is one of the most common ways of counterfeiting the overprint. Genuine overprints were overprints and show no evidence of a impressions in the paper by a typewriter strike.
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Posted 11/07/2011   7:28 pm  Show Profile Check Rileysan's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Rileysan to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Precanceled Nebraska overprints ... the 2c value is a perf-in no less!

I didn't know these existed, but then again, I'm not surprised. To the best of my knowledge, there was nothing special about these issues that would have prevented them from being pre-canceled or used with perf-ins.

My opinion is that there is nothing "fishy" about these stamps. If there is, I'd love to read comments to the contrary!

This article should shed some light on the reasons for, and usage of the Neb/Kan overprints.

http://arago.si.edu/index.asp?con=1...&tid=2033947

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Posted 11/07/2011   7:32 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add quigngt to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

Quote:
Genuine overprints were overprints and show no evidence of a impressions ...


Sorry, I should have said: Genuine overprints were printed and show no evidence of typewriter strikes in the paper.
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Posted 11/07/2011   8:33 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Oregonian to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I'm with warrehouse on this one, should be on locals not buro's, at least I've never seen them on buro's. And the type looks to be taller to me on the overprint.
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Posted 11/07/2011   8:45 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add warrehouse to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Oregonian, Hope you enjoy your stay with us here at the Stamp Community!
Hope to hear & see more! Thanks for your contribution!
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Posted 11/07/2011   9:24 pm  Show Profile Check Rileysan's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Rileysan to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I'm not well versed on precancels. Aren't all of these stamps issued by the BEP, ergo, all precancels would be on bureaus? Please explain the difference between bureaus and locals. I need an education!


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Welcome Oregonian from a fellow Oregonian. So far, you make 4 that I am aware of on SCF. I'm in the Portland area. You?
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Edited by Rileysan - 11/07/2011 9:26 pm
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Posted 11/07/2011   9:26 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add fredcdobbs to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
You need a copy of this publication, APS Handbook series Counterfeit Kansas-Nebraska Overprints on 1922-34 Issue Compiled by Robert H. Schoen and James T.DeVoss 1977


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Posted 11/07/2011   9:39 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add warrehouse to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Bureaus were overprinted at the Bureau of Engraving then disbursed to the city/PO office noted.

Locals were overprinted locally, usually but not exclusively, by authorized devices sent from the PMG, to be used locally at smaller PO's. Also, some devices for overprinting were requested by the local PM & were not officially authorized by the PMG.
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Edited by warrehouse - 11/07/2011 9:39 pm
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Posted 11/07/2011   10:34 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Oregonian to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Rileysan,

I'm in Southern Oregon
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Posted 11/08/2011   09:45 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add chasa to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Yes - there were no bureau precancels on the K/N series. So, these are surely fake K/N overprints. Faker's lack of knowledge often trip themselves up. One reason why there are no K/N bureau prints is the same press technology was used to print the "Nebr" as was used to print the precancel and both could not be done on the same paper path. I bought the 2 cent online but passed on the others - I could not resist the perfin. The same seller also had a 5 & 7 cent at auction.
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