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Posted 01/14/2012   5:36 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add munroe47 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
I am using a 2001 US Scott Specialized catalog. US-1867 (Great Americans Issue, 39c Grenville Clark, perf 10.9)was issued in 1985 according to my catalog. My White Ace album has a place in the 1988 pages for the "same stamp", but with Bullseye perf, 11.25. I cannot find a listing in Scott for that stamp. Am I overlooking the listing? Did Scott leave it out? Is White Ace wrong? HELP!
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Posted 01/14/2012   7:10 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add tomiseksj to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Munroe47, Welcome to SCF! My 2011 Scott Specialized shows 1867d as being perf 11.2 with large block tagging. All other listings for 1867 are for the perf 10.9 stamp. Steve
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Posted 01/14/2012   9:41 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add lpmiller to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Munroe46, thanks for the tip! Went into my stock and found examples of both. Love it when I find another variation. Had no clue that this one existed. Thanks again and welcome to the Forum.
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Posted 01/15/2012   10:41 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add munroe47 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks for the help. I probably need to find a newer catalog; I've been using this one because I have basically restricted my collection 20th century and earlier(I can't afford to keep up with USPS!). After reading your reply, I looked again and noticed that my 2001 catalog also lists the 1867d, but by not specifying a separate issue date for that variety, it implied to me that it was issued in 1985 with the other varieties. White Ace provides a spot for 1867 in the 1985 pages and another spot for 1867d in 1988. Does your 2011 catalog note a different issue date for 1867d? Is there a source of issue date information other than Scott?
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Posted 01/15/2012   12:15 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add tomiseksj to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
My 2011 Specialized only provides the date of March 20, 1985 for the 1867 -- none of the listed varieties have a date indicated.

I checked the Durland Plate Number catalog and, while it doesn't list a date, it indicates that 1867 and 1867c were both printed using plate #1 and 1867d was printed with plate #2, implying a later print date.
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Posted 01/15/2012   12:16 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add wt1 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
No separate issue dates are specified for #1867 v. #1867d. The Scott #1867 was issued on March 20, 1985. I suspect #1867d was a subsequent reprint that resulted in the perforation variety noted. I have checked multiple catalog sources and they all indicate the same thing.

It appears to me that there was no special "first day of issue" of the #1867d stamp. It was just simply a sub-variety that was noted by Scott with a suffix letter after it was put on the market. I would venture to guess that the USPS never intended that there be a variety of this stamp, but when reprinted in 1988 the perforation variety was found by collectors which resulted in Scott giving it a sub-variety listing in their catalog.
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Posted 01/15/2012   12:59 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Trainwreck to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
According to The Great Americans, by Stephen Esrati, plate no. 2 (the perf. 11.2 variety) went to press on 9 Dec 86, so conceivably was released in 1987 at the earliest. It remained on sale until 31 Aug 92.

Regards, Robert
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Posted 01/15/2012   2:35 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add lpmiller to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Munroe47, I have to give you one more thank you. Went back to the Great American series and my Scott's, discovered three other variations, and then checked my stock book. Had all three. #1844, 1868, and 1869 were all printed in both 10.9 and 11.2 perf. Added three stamps to my collection and it only cost me a tiny bit of time and no money!
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Posted 01/15/2012   3:05 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add munroe47 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
To all who responded to my questions: Thank you fo the time you invested in checking this out for me. I appreciate the friendliness and helpfulness of this forum. I hope I will have knowledge of some obscure thing someday to help other collectors; I hate to just ask questions!

I created a database in Microsoft Access to manage my collection in the ways that are important to me. As I enter data into it from Scott, I sometimes find little anomalies, like this 1867d stamp. Until I started this database, I had never paid quite the close attention to the catalog. I have more questions...but later for that. Thanks again to all. Munroe
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