How Would You Read The Markings On This Piece From 1844?

Here's an interesting old piece from a stampless, folded letter from 1844. It measures approximately 3X4 inches but is enlarged for better viewing. Apparently to Boston, what do the postal markings on it tell you?

I see Frankfurt Aug 27th, 1844 and the word "PAID"--I take it the "P.D." means paid?
I cannot make out what is in the center of the paid circle though. Okay--I give.

Gussyboy1

OK, but there are five markings on this piece. Can anyone take it beyond the obvious?

We can assume Frankfurt, Germany. But where, when, and why was it marked paid? Is that a partial rating stamp? And what of the small circle. If that paid stamp was applied in Boston, is it reasonable to assume that it means September 1st? That would be an very quick trip from Germany. Or is it a different Frankfurt? The ones I know in New York and Kentucky are both spelled with an "o" or Frankfort.

There is no way in 1844 a ship could sail from Germany to Boston in three days, plus that CDS does not seem to be German, as IMHO they didn't write the date in that manor in their cancels.
You might want to contact Richard Frajola over on his board, he can probably tell you all about those cancels

Mod.......

The two markings below PD and above Frank are not clear enough to read. With basicly 2/5 of the info unknown, I can't even come up with a guess.

Do you have the rest of the letter?
I have a theory going that the letter didn't go to Boston, Ma but rather Boston, England via Halifax, England which would be possible from Frankfurt in the few days allowed by the postmarks

Richard

Thanks, all. I have seen German covers using abbreviations for months in their circular date stamps, though admittedly none that old. They have used various formats, and August=August in both English and German, as far as I'm aware. Was hoping someone here might have some familiarity with these markings, but I guess not. Have no more of this cover, but if it was marked paid (sent postage due?) on September 1st, Boston, England would make better sense. I have some circa 1900 post cards from Britain to Bavaria, receiver stamped only a day or two later in Germany than the British postmark. (They are on ebay right now if you are interested and look quickly.) I might just list this piece as well, and maybe someone more knowledgeable about such markings will appreciate it! It's kicked around a long time and is obviously not in anyone's collection, though someone did keep it in a protective plastic pocket in their box of miscellaneous stuff.

Let me know if you do post it. I don't ebay often but this piece has peaked my interest and I'd like to see it in person to see if I can figure out anything more

Richard

Modern_who

Here are two replies I got on your paid cancels

.<BR><BR> Lars Boettger"PD is Thurn & Taxis Frankfurt + Paid single circle is London".<BR><BR>
also this reply from Richard Frajola "the "PD" seems to match the Frankfurt origin postmark and the "PAID" seems to be a London marking. Two different transit countries so two different indications of paid"

OK, Richard... am working on listings for tonight and plan to include this.

Jake... thanks much for the added info! I don't know Richard Frajola and his board, maybe you can post the URL.

As you requested Modern_who

http://www.rfrajola.com/

Thanks, Jake. Will check out the link when I can give it more than a cursory glance.

Thanks Jake great info and web site, it's another I have to add to my favorites and explore!

Modern_who & rlorenz

I try to keep all the good stamp sites bookmarked, as well as a number of the better sellers.

Never know when your going to need them for a stamp or some free info??

does P.D. mean Paid or Postamt Deutsche?

baomo

If you read what both Lars & Richard said in their replies, don't think there is too much doubt that the "PD" meant Paid postage fee in Frankfurt. The Frankfurt cancel is pretty clear, neither questioned it as being German cancel and in their opinions the PD "tied" to that cancel.
The circle PAID was applied in England for their fee.

Would tend to put a lot of faith in what Richard said, as he is an "Expert" in his field.

Take a few mintues to check out his web site, migh help you to get to know him.