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Posted 02/13/2012   01:15 am  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add JanS to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
I'm making up some Connecticut Precancel album pages and I can't identify the following two stamps from Brunell's codes in his Printed Precancel Catalog. Each occurs under two of the 7 towns I have done so far, so I think they are unlikely just to be a typo?

1917 Dues 1/2

I don't see a 1/2c Due in the catalog until 1930. Anyone know what he means or what I am doing wrong? It occurs under New Britain and Meriden.

Also:

1962 8p

Usually his codes refer to the stamp value + an identifier for the issue (e.g. 3nra = 3c National Recovery Act stamp). I can't find an 8c stamp issued anywhere near 1962 except for the Gandhi in 1961(and that has no p association -- the series is Champions of Liberty). It occurs under New Britain and New Haven.

If it helps, in the New Haven listing the "8p" is preceded by the 1962 5c Washington [1213 or 1229(coil)] and followed by the 1965 1c Jefferson [1278]. The list is not absolutely linear (e.g. he frequently groups the 1.5c FF, 4c Taft and 3c Stuart 684, 685 and 720), but for the most part it is pretty close to chronological ...

Any ideas? Many thanks.

Just found another one: "1919 P10x10 1c". The best I can find are 462 and 543, but neither is 1919.

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The 1/2 postage due of the 1911-1917 style SC J68 was not issued until 1925 - but it is considered in the 1917 'series'.
8p is the 8 cent Pershing stamp SC 1042A, it is lumped in with the Liberty series.

1919 10x10 is SC 543. If you are barred from using SC numbers in your catalog, it is convenient shorthand to use 1918 for all the OFFSET printings, and 1919 for all the ROTARY printings.
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Posted 02/13/2012   10:51 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add JanS to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you!
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Posted 02/14/2012   03:07 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add JanS to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
As soon as I think I've got something, another problem comes up. What are:

1914: 3
1917: 3
and
1918: 3

Based on the dates and the values listed by Brunell for each sequence, I took them to be 333 (p12), 426 (p10), 501/502 (p11).

But now I have a p11 3c lilac / purple of type 333 with a Hartford 204 on it - so I thought that must be a 501/502. But on the back it says 529 in pencil. I don't have access to watermark technology.

Is the pencil notation wrong or do I have the wrong Scott ## associated with the Brunell years?

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Traditionally, precancel collectors do not consider watermark differences when catalogging, sorting, or mounting their washington/franklin stamps. This is a blessing because in most cases finding the watermark on used stamps can be a pain. So...
1914: 3 means either SC426 or SC464 (perf-10 flat plate either SLWM or not WM)
1917: 3 means either SC501 or SC502 (perf-11 flat plate type 1 or type 2)
1918: 3 means either SC529 or SC530 (perf-11 offset print type 3 or type 4)

It is just a co-incidence that your example here has two possible scott numbers for each item listed in Brunell.
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1919: 3 - would be the SC541 3 cent rotary. Not many of these were precanceled.
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1908: 3 - would be SC333 or SC376 (or SC359!)
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Thank you again, chasa. Really appreciated.

One more question, if anyone can help, but this is about the Types I and II (501/502) of the 3c.

Do the PO of postage join or are they separated on these? I have quite a few 3c where the lower part of the stamp (the mouth and/or the toga rope and button) are obscured by the precancel. I don't have one without a precancel. So if the 501/502 can be distinguished from each other or from the Type III / IV in this way, it would help me quite a bit. No mention of the PO on Type I / II in my Scott, so I am not sure which way they go.

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