New Four Flags Issue - Feb 22

It looks like there are 2 distinguishing features on the single booklet stamps:
The amount of colors used (as seen in the star area of the flag) and the length of the bottom edge of the flag.
Ashton Potter: Colored dots in the stars, 18.5 mm along the bottom edge of the flag.
Sennett: Blue dots only in the stars, 19.0 mm along the bottom edge of the flag.

Here's where I can use some help...
I looked at the star area on about 20 of these stamps and am not sure of what I'm looking for to see the "colored dots" and "Blue only dots". It looks to me like there are some differences in the star area on
the stamps I have, but when I measure the bottom of the flag, they all are pretty close to the 18.5 mm.

Can some one post a close up picture of the star area of the flag showing the two printers version for comparison?

Thanks,

Dave N.
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Does this help?

So, I have the booklet with the P number. I should be able to go in and ask them to give me one with an S number and then I'll have the two I need, other than the ATM pane?

If anyone can pick up an extra copy of these booklets I would gladly pay all costs plus whatever for the time involved.

Would be easier than ordering from the USPS.

Thanks and forever grateful [no joke intended!]



Londonbus1

Londonbus,

See my email.

If someone has the S variety and are willing to part with some, shoot me a message.

Ok, just to confirm here... The four flags stamp wills be issued in the following formats:

2 double sided booklets of 20 by two different printers
1 booklet of 10
3 coils by three different printers

Do we have a yes or no the ATM booklet?

Just trying to figure out what I will need to collect.

I might be incorrect, but I think the ten-stamp convertible booklet seems to have taken the place of the so-called ATM booklet. As far as I can tell what you have are all the issues. Curiously enough, I went through the coils and booklets last night to make sure I had them covered. It is beyond reason why the three different printing companies each have to publish both booklets and coils. Seems as though it would be far less complicated for all concerned - including us humble stamp collectors - if they divided the tasks with a bit more logic. For example, let one do all the coils and have the others either do the booklets or panes. It would even seem that some scheme like this might just be more cost effective than have all three do both tasks. Yes, I'm probably being far too simplistic, but on the face of it the government's system seems inefficient and just plain stupid. Oh, and extremely confusing and costly to the timbremaniacs of the world.

The "convertible" booklet and "ATM" booklet are one in the same.

For your reference, the following Scott #'s correspond to the issues to date (all are in Scott catalog order by "Equality", "Justice", "Freedom" and "Liberty):

4629-4632 = Coil 8.5V (AVR)
4633-4636 = Coil 9.5V (APU)
4637-4640 = Coil 11V (SSP)

4641-4644 = Booklet 18.5mm from LL to LR corners of Flag (APU)
4645-4648 = Booklet 19.0mm from LL to LR corners of Flag (SSP)
4673-4676 = Convertible Booklet w/Microprinting Letters in Curve
Booklet 19.25mm from LL to LR corners of Flag (AVR)

Of course (AVR) = Avery-Dennison; (APU) = Ashton Potter; and (SSP) = Sennett Security Products.

Why does Scott assign the first number to Equality when the coil starts with Freedom?

There are 4 different booklets?

I've asked that very same question long ago and the bottom line is it's up to the Scott Catalog publishers who decides how the listings appear. If you go back to the first issue of 2012, the Spectrum Eagle Coil, I started collecting the strip of stamps in the order the USPS advertised them on their website and in the Postal Bulletin, but lo and behold the Scott Catalog used a different color sequence when numbering them.

Going back to the Lady Liberty/Flag stamps of a year or so ago, the stamps are defined in the Scott Catalog with Lady Liberty first (even though it's the Las Vegas Lady Liberty) and the Flag stamp second. I've always been taught from school days that the US Flag always comes first as a point of protocol ... but not according to the Scott Catalog!

[NOTE: Back to the 4 Flags Issue, there are THREE different booklets (two that were originally issued and then the one "convertible" or ATM booklet that was released later); along with THREE different coil varieties from the various printers.

Oh, I see. The line you wrote about the convertible booklet wrapped to a second line. I thought there was a 4th booklet with no Scott Catalog number assigned yet.

I'm going to pick up the coil versions off of ebay, since I am not spending $45x3 just to get 3 strips of 4 stamps.

If anyone needs a block of 4 of the AP printings, let me know.

And the Four Flags page I hacked together

Great page display of a confusing issue. I presume all your Booklet/ATM displays are non-full booklet. What do you do with a single design ... 1 stamp or a pair? Also, since so many collectors tend to a repeating sequence in their coils (here prob 5), it is interesting to note you only used 4. I guess the sequence is more appropriate to PNC type collections.

Are you mixing these pages in with Steiner pages?

I am not mixing with Steiner pages. I'm trying to do my own pages from 2000 to present. Working my way back from 2012.

What single design are you referring to? Did I miss a booklet issue?

I don't ever do coil pairs, or repeat coil sequence. That's just my preference.