New Four Flags Issue - Feb 22

Redid the page in Scott order number:



I'll have some PDFs and Scribus files later.

And final product on ivory paper with stamps on it:

I was asking a generic question about how you handle booklet stamps when they are a single design, not 4 designs as with these flags. Do you mount a single example of the booklet stamp or some multiple (pair, block)?

I do singles. No need to be redundant. I don't do coil pairs either, as others do.

Ok, here is where I got confused. Directly under the picture of the convertible booklet pane is this.



So I assumed that the only listing was for the whole pane.

However 2 columns over, they have this:



Don't full booklets usually get assigned a number starting with C?

I thought Avery-Dennison printed the convertible booklet pane. The above screenshot says Ashton-Potter was printing it.

Looks like Linn's got it wrong:

Apastuszak ... I'm sorry tokeep bothering you with semi-respetetive questions. You told me you add 10mm in both directions for your stamp boxes. So here, for the full booklet example of 44.2 x 165.1 mm you would create a box of 54.2 x 175.1 giving you a 5mm "border" all around to deal with your mount. What size is he border line? Something like 4 points? What is your reliable source of dimensions or do you just measure everything. Looking up every postal bulletin would get tedious and, even if watch carefully, does Linn's always have that info?

For these stamps, I put them in mounts, and measured the actual mount, and then put a box around it that was 1 mm bigger than the mount.

I have Scribus set to use mm as the default measurement and just used the default box size, which appears to be 0.353 mm, which converts to 1 pt.

On my Ukrainian stamp album pages, I added 10 mm. I originally did 5 mm, and when it came time to mount the stamps, the mounts were too big for the boxes.

Based on your earlier post, I think you're confusing the booklet panes from two different issues. This thread is about the Four Flags booklets and they were indeed printed by Avery-Dennison (AVR).

The scans from the Scott catalog that you provided in an earlier post relates to the Aloha Shirts booklets, in which case, it is correct that they were printed by Ashton-Potter (APU).

Apastuszak ...
As fate would have it, I have some Ukrainian blood in my ancestry and some very Ukrainian relatives who reside in Toronto. Is there an online version of your Tryzub album. I've visited Stamp Hacks but could not find one. Related to your answer to another of my posts, while searching for your Tryzub album I came across your Merchant Marine hack for Mystic.
... Cal

OBTW, does apastuszak = Andy? He'll of a lot easier to type!

wt1,

You are correct. I totally screwed up there. Ignore my post.

Cal516'

Yep it's Andy. The stamp hacks website has the pages for download, but not my collection, which is very small at the moment. If you have Ukrainian relatives that' want to learn about Ukrainian stamps, I highly recommend www.ukrainian-philately.info

I'm sorting a small pile of these collected from my mail and trying to make sure I understand the differences.

WT1 said:



Now we add in 4706-09 = ATM (APU) (anyone know flag measurement?)

According to my Minuteman album supplement, 4706-09 is the only one that can have die cuts on all four sides. They also could be die cut on just 2 or 3 sides, but if the stamp is die cut on all four sides, it must be 4706-09. Anyone know otherwise?

Do I understand correctly that only 4673-76 have microprinting? In other words, if it has microprinting, it must be 4673-76?

The ATM Pane of 18 (Scott 4706-4709) is serpentine die cut 11.25 x 10.75 with colored dots in stars, 18.5 mm from LL to LR corner of flag, thin paper (APU).

My example of an ATM Pane of 18 shows that that two (2) "Justice" (Scott 4709) and two (2) "Liberty" stamps (Scott 4707) are the only ones that would have die cuts on all four sides.

Before anyone asks, according to the information I have, the "Freedom" stamp is assigned Scott 4706; the "Equality" stamp is assigned Scott 4708.

Here's my example of the ATM Pane of 18 (front and back):

My other hobby is classic car restoration, for which I sometimes use a caliper to measure things needing very precise tolerances. I think I'll bring that tool in from the garage to work on these stamps. Sure would have been nice if there was an easier way to distinguish these varieties. I can't see the difference between colored dots and blue dots, even with the high res scan posted earlier in the thread.

I found this link http://www.philosateleia.com/blog/e...amps_459.php which shows the differences in microprinting. 4641-44 (APU) and 4645-48 (SSP) do have microprinted "usps," but in the bottom red stripe and smaller than 4673-76 (AVR) which is in the bottom white stripe. That link was prepared before the ATM variety, so it doesn't indicate which microprinting was used on that one.

Edited the point about location of microprinting. In my pile, the microprinting is in the lowest white stripe. The linked page makes it look like it is in the red, but closer examination shows it isn't.