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Chinese Theater End Of The W.w.ii Early Mail Envelope!

 
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Posted 04/14/2012   02:12 am  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add wayne to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Based on the data, research shows that should express in this period that registered postage fee $ 350 is correctly, the implementation date from 1946.11.1 to 1947.7.1, just a few months only.

I wonder two things:
First of all, the investigation of geographic data Anqing to Shapingba,Chungking if via aviation way to transport the mail is a luxury things, one of the aircraft midway will not be landing Shapingba may only rely on land transport, and the second reason is a distance of only 10 or few kilometers far between both side, may the flames of war spread just to break is not on track, still with the very practice of extraordinary times.
Secondly, look at the postmark and reach the cancelled stamp, just one day, the whole on to the intact envelope, no any stamps mark on there, check should not be out of stamp(s), air mail is even more mysterious ... but Mr."Wang Bozong "rough in bold on the back of an envelope, and a pen to write the word, it is difficult to identify the correct pronunciation and meaning. relations association with the wartime secret letter, enclosing the letter, this inconvenience announced

In short, to this # 0618 express registered letter has been delivered successfully, and now left the world in my hands.







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Posted 04/14/2012   2:07 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add khj to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Looks like something was removed from the cover.

To the left of the blue Par Avion label, and above the postmark, I see a whitish rectangle. Whatever was there (maybe the wide rectangular special delivery or registration stamp of that era), either fell off or was removed.
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Posted 04/14/2012   6:28 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add wayne to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Without any disguise or false, I also found khj said the white rectangular mark on the front top right of the cover.
But the Chungking postal datestamps of 1947.4.21th/12 very clear and complete, please see attached photo-4.

As opinion as "The wide rectangle special delivery or registered stamps of that era", I would very much like to know what that is? who collectors have seen it? need some explanations.
Thanks for the useful advice ,khj.
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Posted 04/14/2012   7:30 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add khj to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The special delivery stamp used during the 1940s...



and the registration stamp used during the 1940s...




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But the Chungking postal datestamps of 1947.4.21th/12 very clear and complete, please see attached photo-4.




I'm looking at the postmark, and I don't see how you were able to decipher the year 1947 on the Chungking postmark. In your scan, I have circled in red where the Chinese inscription "36th year" (for 1947) would be. Am I missing something? Could you explain how you read the year 1947 from that postmark? Thank you.

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Posted 04/14/2012   10:17 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add wayne to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Yes,khj,
You mean the special delivery stamp label should used on there,how to distinguish be green label or red label on the cover top? I think...maybe missed it no reason actually, but you can explain why this cover did not paste should have the postage/stamps?
I really can't able to explain how I read the year is 1947 from that postmark,red cycle area seem the year is "36th",but 36th appeared,what is the key words it very close the chinese words "April" month marked ? You can able to read?!
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Posted 04/14/2012   10:21 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add wayne to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Could You let me know as your understanding of this cover has some special significance meaning on the era postal history? THX!
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Posted 04/15/2012   12:20 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add khj to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Sorry, Wayne, but I know very little about postal history and covers, as I primarily collect "off-paper" postage stamps. In addition, I cannot read Chinese with understanding, although I can recognize some of the characters. Since you are in Taiwan, I'm assuming you can read Chinese far better than I can.

My best reply/guess to your questions are...

-- The green label affixed to the back of the envelope is an express delivery registration tag. I don't know if it could also be used as a simple registered mail tag because the wording next to 0618 is a bit ambiguous; but I assume in this case it was used for express delivery, rather than registered mail.

-- If express delivery, then there should be a red special delivery stamp in front. I believe it was there, but over the years, either fell off or was removed. It is not unusual for stamps to fall off covers from that era. I do have some covers and letter sheets from the 1930s and 1940s, and it wasn't unusual to have a few stamps fall off.

-- The cover was sent to Miss Liu (at least it looks like "Liu" to me).

-- I don't collect or study postmarks either. Most of my China collection from that era is archived, so this is from memory. I recall 2 basic postmark formats for the date. Looking at the columns in reverse order (i.e., from left to right), the 2 most common formats I've seen are:

1st column: I believe that is the hour in military time format.
1 vertical bar
2nd column: date.
3rd column: month number.
4th/5th column: sometimes there are 2 columns, sometimes only 1. Your example is the 5 column type. I don't know what the 4th column is for. Your 4th column is definitely not the year inscription. However, the rightmost column will be 3 characters corresponding to 2 digits and the word "year". The 2 digit year will be relative to the year 1911 (i.e., add that number to 1911). The red oval I drew is where that year column should be, and I cannot make out what it says.

The most I can make out is what you already stated, sent Apr 21 and receiving post office date of Apr 22.

That's all I can tell you beyond what you already knew. There are a couple other SCF members who are fluent in Chinese. Hopefully, they can chime in and accurately tell you more.

Hope that helps.

k

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Posted 04/15/2012   12:58 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add wayne to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I almost can understanding every words on the cover shown,just don't know the cover was fall off its stamps or label actual situations.
So stranger cover,has 2 paper letters inside,wrote about discussing in order to on a died father and home affairs.
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