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I notice in Brunell that there are some smaller towns (eg Bellingham, WA and Manchester, CT) that have a huge number (pages and pages of double columns) of precancels listed, while their nearish neighbors like Seattle and Hartford managed to get by with only a "normal" amount. Obviously some places have companies that need the stamps (for catalogs, etc.), but having lived near both Manchester and Bellingham, I can't think of an industry or company that would justify these cases. So why does this happen? I am curious, but not really concerned, about Manchester, because in that case the precancels are older (1938 - 1949, approx.) and were issued month by month, with dates, so I am assuming there is some sensible reason, just as yet unknown to me. But for Bellingham I am very concerned. I am trying to create some album pages, and I don't want to make hundreds of slots for stamps that were never truly in circulation. Did the T.P. live there for a while  ?? A few of his creations would be fun and interesting (maybe even quite a few) but the Bellingham commemoratives run into the hundreds, from 1933 - 1995, approx, and would waste a lot of my time just in making pages for them, let alone searching for them. So does anyone know if they are for real? Thanks!
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The Manchester NH precancels with the CB design were used by Cheney Brothers and they used tons.
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Thanks, chasa.
Any idea on what's been going on in Bellingham, WA, anyone?
And I just noticed Aberdeen, WA, does the same thing (hundreds of precancels thru to the 1990s) ... actually, there are some whole precanceled souvenir sheets from Aberdeen for 1998 - 2002, as well (Trans-Miss, Pan Am and Missionaries).
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Aberdeen and Bellingham - both travelling press. Lets say you drove your pickup truck from Dallas to the Pacific northwest to make precancels, you would not just make them on the 2cent Mary Lyon. You would bring a trunk load of interesting denominations. |
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And I guess why travel all the way to the far tip of WA (Bellingham, on the far northwest Pacific Coast /Canadian border), without stopping at any other likely spot along the way (like Aberdeen, on the south-eastern coast).
So if I'm following this, and the docs posted by wt1, correctly, there is no specific date at which one can be sure TP's activity started or stopped, since he might have brought very old material with him.
But he was active from at least c1995 (Bellingham's last issue) to 2002 (Aberdeen's last issue). And presumably there are many other towns in Brunell that would help establish an earlier start date.
And maybe if one knew his start date, the chances of anything prior to that date being manipulated by him would be smaller???? Then again, maybe not.
I just re-read Brunell's 3rd edition introduction which discusses TP in some detail, but doesn't have a date.
What he does say is that TP's Dallas 241 production is ongoing (as of March 2011), and that there are many other manipulated precancels due to collectors and groups in many other places, so that only the Bureaus and the pre-1908 Classics are more or less clean of interference.
Still, being an A-type personality, I wish I had a copy of his second edition, which apparently deliberately omitted the TP stamps. I could live with a few intermittent "creations" more easily, overall, than TP's wholesale production.
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Does anyone know how I might acquire the second edition?
And does anyone know if a specific start date is known for TP?
Also - is it known whether TP deliberately created inverts / doubles. The Liberty set from Aberdeen has quite a few, so I wonder if that suggests it's postal?
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1. You could ask TP about the dates, but you might not get a straight answer. 2. Bureau's are safe but NOTHING else, The Mobile DLE comes on the "1879 Hussey's local'.
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Maybe the Bellingham postmaster is very co-operative or easy to encourage($$). I live just north of Bellingham across the border. In my younger days I sent him a nickel for a block of 4 of the 1-1/4 Gallitin precancelled Bellingham. This was before write-ins started. He sent me a block with an oval cancel on it. At least he replied. |
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Quote: The Manchester NH precancels with the CB design were used by Cheney Brothers and they used tons. That should be Manchester, Connecticut (not New Hampshire) right? Cheney Bros. was a big silk mill operation of the 19th and early 20th century in that city. Quote: Cheney Bros., a company that grew from a single water-powered mill in 1838 to become the largest producers of silk velvet in the world, reigned over Manchester for nearly a century. All eight sons of George W. and Elizabeth Cheney were associated with the development of the company: six actively engaged as managers; the elder two, who were artists, invested in the firm. A privately held family business, Cheney Bros. not only responded to the challenges and complexities of the Industrial Revolution, but prospered long after similarly structured companies failed or were swallowed up by national conglomerates. At the height of its success in the early 1920s, when annual revenues reached $23 million, the company employed 4670 Manchester residents and possibly supported as many as 130 members of this prolific family. Among the many factors that contributed to this extraordinary growth and stability was a single-product focus, bolstered by sophisticated technological development, and an unswerving commitment to the social welfare of the workforce.
From the $23 million banner year of 1923, sales dropped to $10 million in 1931. The decline, which had begun in the 1920s and accelerated during the Depression, was primarily due to competition from the new synthetic fabrics, which were much cheaper to produce, but overproduction was also a factor. The company, which had always maintained high inventories of raw silk and finished goods, suffered substantial losses when the bottom fell out of the silk market. In just three months in 1929, the value of goods on hand dropped by $6 million.
A brief recovery during World War II, when Cheney Bros. retooled to weave synthetics and manufactured nylon parachutes, was followed by another decline. The company sold out to J.P. Stevens in 1954. |
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