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What Is Difference Between These Two Issues Of "Same" Stamps

 
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Posted 05/15/2012   2:23 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add JanS to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
What is the difference between these:

old Aloha
upcoming Aloha on June 2 2012?

One is sold as coil, 20 sheet, 10 block or 5 strip; the other seems to be a booklet of 10. Will they be visibly different when used?

There are other examples that escape me:

Liberty Justice etc flags in the $4.50 booklet of 10 versus the $9 booklet of 20?

etc.

Will there be some combo of perf /date / value / flat-sided coils or corners or some such differences to all these? Or is it going to be of the "11.25 x 11 on 2, 3 or 4 sides" variety?
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Posted 05/15/2012   2:50 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add JanS to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Just read the new Flags thread and learned the newest (June) Liberty Justice etc flags are "convertible booklet of 10" - which doesn't clarify much for me; what does it mean? [i.e. Will it have a special space in Scott? I only do Minuteman, nothing fancier.]

Also, I bought a 20-flag booklet at my local PO a few weeks ago ... dropped it in the car and it got slightly less than pristine, so I bought another (aagh). So now, maybe I have two different printer editions!? However, meantime, I have no idea where I put the grubby booklet (which I was going to use for mailing).
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Posted 05/15/2012   2:56 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add wt1 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
For the postcard rate, the 32c Aloha stamps are being issued on June 2, 2012 in a smaller booklet of 10 (presumably for vacationers who may want to buy them to send postcards to family and friends)...but more likely to get collectors to buy the various varieties.

For most, it's much ado about nothing. The stamps aren't appreciably changed, just the format in which they are sold. In fact, here's a copy of the design details of the original booklet of 20, the coil of 100 and you can easily compare it to the soon-to-be-released booklet of 10. There are three different printers, some slight variation in colors and the latest booklet of 10 appears as though it will not have microprinting:



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Posted 05/15/2012   4:13 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Trainwreck to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
There are differences in the paper type for all three Aloha Shirts issues. The pane and coil stamps are printed on prephosphored paper, so they will have solid or uneven tagging (using Scott's terminology). The convertible booklet stamps are printed on nonphosphored paper, so the tagging will be added during the printing process. This will produce overall tagged stamps. Assuming the pane and booklet stamps are the same in all other aspects, the tagging will allow collectors to differentiate them. Can't wait to examine them.
Cheers, Robert
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Posted 05/15/2012   4:26 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add apastuszak to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The USPS should take some cues from Royal Mail and cut back on these issues.
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Posted 05/15/2012   4:37 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add wt1 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Based on the technical sheets posted earlier, does anyone find it interesting that the sheet and coil versions were printed in 7 colors, and the new booklet of 10 will only be printed in 4 colors?

I wonder if it could be a misprint of some sort, as it's interesting that the booklet is claiming to have a plate number with 5 digits (when only 4 colors are being used) which is unusual.
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I have not examined the pane stamps, but are they truly from a pane of 20 with selvage all around? If that is the case, then the pane stamps will be die cut on all four sides, while the convertible booklet stamps will be die cut on 2 or 3 sides only.
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Posted 05/15/2012   5:17 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add wt1 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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the pane stamps will be die cut on all four sides, while the convertible booklet stamps will be die cut on 2 or 3 sides only.


Correct. Here's my Aloha Sheet stamp that shows the format (with perforations on all sides):

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Posted 05/16/2012   06:11 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add tomd to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
wt1,
where did you get that information?
That is what I have been looking for. Is it a web site, book, what?
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Posted 05/16/2012   06:30 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add wt1 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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where did you get that information?


The upcoming booklet stamp data was taken right from the "Philately" section of the May 3, 2012 issue of The Postal Bulletin. It's available on-line to anyone at this link:

http://about.usps.com/postal-bulletin/pb2012.htm
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Posted 05/16/2012   06:34 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add tomd to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
http://www.1847usa.com is where I get my info but to 1970 only.

Thank you so much wt1
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